@palerider1775: Ooooh both of your points remind me of when I went to see hostel 2.

@brent_w: Projecting. That's what i was thinking exactly. In philosophy arguments are treated like math where the answer fits based on all factors added up as numbers until the one that works is the logic that fits. It's used to disprove or plug ideas into bigger concepts and it works great.

There's way too many ways to look at this. I haven't seen the movie but by the sounds of it we're missing something crucial.

hmmm... well... this is tough because i like to believe video games are art. all this nonsense about rules and engagement and things don't matter because like it or not, even if it's interactive, everything you're doing has been created and when you're experiencing a game, you cannot take in anything but what has been…

Oh, and why do we care whether video games be called art? Really? Every belief that ever gets contested gets fought for or discussed. You can't contest someones belief and not have it fought for by them. What a small minded and selfish question.

hmmm... well... this is tough because i like to believe video games are art. all this nonsense about rules and engagement and things don't matter because like it or not, even if it's interactive, everything you're doing has been created and when you're experiencing a game, you cannot take in anything but what has been…