She's railing against a major tenet...did you not read up on this thread and are just baiting here? I wasn't making comment on anything about LDS or any other religion - my comment was regarding procedural implementation of your chosen religious dogma....please do some research - reading is fundamental, afterall.

Who in your life refers to you as her/his "Mom". You are not, you're his owner (which is not a bad thing, it's what we make of it).

I'm a "breeder" - damn me to Hell, right?

I insisted that this woman leave her church? Wow. that was shitty of me, when did I do that?

Talk about your dog- I never said you shouldn't. What I said was that your dog doesn't equate to anyone's human child - in any way shape or form regarding death. Please check your outrage.

My desires? I could give a good damn what this woman believes. I would just like for people to be honest about their shit. Believe in a 10-gallon drum for all I care - but believe it or leave it. It's not that difficult to understand. Otherwise, you're admitting that you believe in what suits you, and that's not…

Oh hell, I don't know - I just discovered this today. It seems to me like this is a chick singing about how how she's got a lot of junk in the trunk but it's ok because the boys like it - I'm curious as to why that is a body positive stance.

Does that change the story for you at all? What we call this shitbag?

If you think a pet being ill is the same as a child facing death, then you're right - we're going to disagree. Obviously you don't have children, but on top of that, you must not have any human whose life you value highly. Truly, it shouldn't matter and with most grownups it doesn't - I don't know anyone who argues…

Yes, he was and so is the person who is personified in this original post...any and every one who deigns to think their dog/cat/fish/hedgehog is equivalent to someone's child.

Scoff, but Dog found Andrew Factor when no one else could (it was shady, but still, he found him).

I'm talking about this - someone speaks about their human child, and someone else equates a story about their pet. Their PET. I'm not one who spends a lot of time speaking with my colleagues about my human children, but I have team members who do, and to hear another team member chime about how their DOG IS LIKE…

But this isn't body positivity, it's fat positivity - or maybe this video doesn't go so far into the fattitude range, but you're still suggesting that one has to be overweight to be a positive body influence.

Um, ok -not what I was referring to at all.

No it doesn't - it's a different conversation, it's not the same.

Did you just really want to use the word DROLL here?

Anytime someone contributes to a conversation about children with any tidbit about their "furbabies" sensible people tune out. We get it, you love your dogs. They are not, and will not ever be analogous to human children, so just stop.

Objective intellectualism allows your mind to be removed from this - and you are basically admitting it is propaganda. No one asked or suggested that she renounce and reject people - you get that you can remove yourself from a dogma but still retain relationships with people who are in it, right? Hell - I am happy…

In short - this religion wrongs a lot of people - it just happens to be wronging her at the moment as a young woman who has a sexual identity.

"Byers is committing to remaining a member of her church" - good for her, it's still a clusterfuck, and maybe I'd have more respect for her if she disavowed herself until they righted their wrongness...but then again, that would mean their wrongness is fluid (which is it because this is a made-up religion) and she…