Teslas product is very stale and outdated and the guy at the top is a creep. He bought the US government, among many other reasons, so he can use it to promote himself and his business and to use available regulatory tools to promote his interests and businesses and to shield them from competition.

Especially a supposedly-offroad model.

I’ve rented enough cars in my life to know never buy a rental car.

Yet they couldn’t give away their Model 3s. <thinking emoji>

Too bad it wasn’t AF1. Would have solved a lot of problems.

Toyota might have sold another half a million cars if their (US) dealers did not act as if the cars were made of pure gold. I was considering a RAV4 until I went to a dealer and found $3500 worth of worthless add-ons. I got a CX-5 instead.

You have to be utterly brainwashed to believe that was NOT a “nazi salute”, but whatever.

You know most civilized folks call a nazi apologist such as yourself?

Yep, you’re a nazi.

Post up bro.

What I want to know is how that absolute diarrhea of a human being out of the greys, and how do we put them back?

Fuck off, you shit ass Nazi prick.

Fucking Trump controlling the weather.

Good Lord, imagine what could have happened if these things were driving around in Philly?!

I approve of this.

EXACTLY! And as much as I love cars/car reviews, I’ll be the first to say that I’m still wrapping my head around certain internal workings, etc. That being said, wouldn’t going electric be more beneficial for reliability? Fewer things happening under the hood would mean fewer components having to work together (or not…

Clearly that’s why people aren’t buying [any Stellantis Product] Alfa Romeos, not the complete absence of quality.

Making them fully electric might actually help AR in reliability.

Ahh… the usual “my car is fine so statements of poor reliability is all bullshit” from overly sensitive Alfa owners.

Agreed. If the Giulia were as reliable as, say, a Korean car, I would likely have bought a Ti Sport myself. 

Honestly, its the olds, a category I am fast approaching.