I’m with you, religious ideals are a very difficult thing to negotiate. Freedom really is letting people do what they want, even when you don’t like it. We see it often with 1st amendment challenges. I think it should be the same for Gay rights, and so on, but that being said, if a Christian baker doesn’t want to bake…

West Coast, absolutely, and Thank you as well. It seems that the entire country has devolved into yelling at each other, and that is truly not going to get us anywhere.

Yeah, I got that, and you’ll notice I’m not advocating RPG’s either.

I think we just have to agree to disagree. My view is diametrically opposed to yours.

You’re right there is no data yet, Hopefully there won’t be.

oh come on, I’ve provided probably the most reasonable response in the dabate here in Kinja today. I’ve presented my point of view, supported it with anecdotal evidence, just as everyone else here. I’ve pointed out fallacies without being insulting or offensive. I’m not really upset at all, I’m just trying to…

One could say the same about the conclusions of others. Both sides latch onto the statistic that supports their argument. That is the fallacy of statistics. You can support almost anything if you exclude some portion of the data.

I think the government might have been less prone to abuse it’s people, and possibly Putin never would have arrived in power. Hard to say though.

And you ask why 2nd amendment advocates are defending their right as fervently as they are. You’ve answered your own question. Your Utopia is my Dystopia. Your “reasonable” restrictions essentially ban guns to everyone but the exceedingly rich who can afford the bureaucracy.

Do you always resort to insults?

Absolutely, that is what it is all about. My only chance of convincing you of the merits of my argument is by informing you of the nuances of my position. Certainly not by insulting you. The reverse is also true, by exposing myself to a crowd with the opposite perspective I hope to gain insight, and honestly expose my…

I’m with you, aside from a border/customs type solution I don’t have any idea how you could implement it, but any other solution forces the needs/wants of one population on the other group.

I love these ridiculous photos, for years Fox was doing it, now it’s swung the other way. It’s like a photographers contest, who can capture the most awkward pose. What a crack up.

Honestly when I see Brady I have the same reaction most liberals have when they see fox.

I suppose, true for him, and true for everyone else. As I said he wasn’t my first choice, or even my second to be honest.

Good catch, The statistics I looked at were for Homicide rate. Sorry for the confusion.

My point, which I’m sure you got notwithstanding the snarky response, was that Boralis’s argument isn’t universal. There are other experiences, that counter the negative incidents that have occurred.

To be fair he isn’t my first choice either, but you can’t prevent the man from accomplishing anything and then mock him for not accomplishing anything.

I’m with you generally speaking, but the climate at this point is that Gun Rights advocates have watched their rights erode under the mantra of “reasonable” over the last 30 years and are now determined to stop any further erosion. In their hearts I believe the vast majority would support restricting unstable,…

Nilfy I am sorry for you loss, truly, but you’ve completely dismissed the rest of my response.