I know. But I also wanted to add a counterpoint to think about extending the timeline. Because, if nothing else, the governing body was founded and built upon the looting of bodies and lands from...pick any of these dates...to the present.

Only tangentially related(statues and racism) but the Mayor Rizzo statue in philly is gone now too.

We could also extend the start date back to 1619, 1492, or even 986.

Don’t forget 1812.

I just saw a documentary on that and you are correct. After this past weekend, I would have compared him to Nero, except Nero was willing to share power and ended “closed door political trials.” 

Relax. The person after him will wreck what he did and try to build his own thing, then Abrams will come back and try to wreck that and rebuild his own thing and also add a bunch more stuff too!

As a descendant of Jefferson Davis (and I inherited that truly unfortunate forehead BTW) I want all of these goddamn confederate statues torn down. History will remember all those traitors and their details — Civil War fetishists will make sure of that — but the statues and monuments only serve to hurt and divide the…

I would be too, but I think America’s the wicked stepmother in this one... or at least the side of the family running it.

We’re in the end-game now

Well, 1789, really. Or maybe 1865? Wouldn’t be the first time shit fell apart.

Hey, there’s still the reboot!

Didn’t the Romans make their stagger and limb for an extra 300 years after their glory? 

Stick around. There’s still time for comeback. It’s a longshot, I grant you. What can I say? I’m a sucker for a Cinderella story.

I’m not racist and i never have been but i need to speak up about this because just not being racist isn’t enough.

But tell me again how awful Biden is