Those are US Figures for 2015. I don’t have global sales figures readily available, but would concede that Nissan is likely the global leader in sales.

Huh? Actual numbers tell a different story:

Speculation, obviously... but by 2020 when most of these other players are likely to enter the market the Model S will have been available for 8 years. The Model X: 5 years. Model 3... well, if current information is accurate about 3 years.

Neutral: Absolutely not. I think this is what Musk has wanted all along - competition. It’s always been pretty clear that Elon Musk wants more than anything to see EVs move out of obscurity.

This was all just a big misunderstanding...

Think of all the Freedom we saved though!!

I’ll never get this mentality.... I think we have been desensitized to such large amounts of money... Here is what $15 billion in one dollar bills looks like:

I get your sarcasm, I do... but factoring in that stuff requires large amounts of speculation. We just can’t calculate the economic impact of taxes and social support if the bailouts didn’t happen because we don’t know what would have actually happened. We can guess, but it’s just a guess.

It’s tough to say what would have happened if the bailout never happened - and I’m not saying it shouldn’t have happened. But it’s highly doubtful ‘all those people’ would have lost their jobs. The more likely scenario would have been some outside entity would have bought up GM/Chrysler and a decent portion of the…

Not saying that it was a total bust - obviously it saved lots of jobs and livelihoods. But I think taxpayers should have gotten 100% of their money back regardless of the externalities. Especially now that the companies are profitable.

Neutral: 9,300,000,000. That’s how many reasons why we should keep talking about it. That’s how many dollars the GM/Chrysler bailout lost taxpayers.

I like your comment. #COTD.

You sound like you could benefit from tip #10.

Oh, you made the same math error as Torch originally did - Nurple to Torque conversion is ft-lb/1.4, not ft-lb*1.4!

I can understand the sentiment, but it’s not like you have to twiddle your thumbs while your car charges:

Neutral: Nope - Electric cars are becoming more and more realistic for the general public - and with the Bolt and Model 3 right around the corner, there is even more hope.

431 rwhp (rear-wheel horsepower) and 427 rear-wheel lb-ft of torque, from an advertised 455 hp at the motor.

I don’t know, if you are going for that look, my money is with the Huayra:

One of my favorite quotes from Thomas J. Watson:

Oh, I am totally with you - I would have massive amounts of guilt knowing my car was poisoning the air at insane rates. My comment was more a general guess at what the majority of TDi owner’s thoughts/motivations are. I agree with your statement that, “...virtually everyone else does not give even a tiny shit...” and…