No one really gave a shit about internet explorer being bundled with Windows. 

I had an iPhone X but recently changed carriers and needed to decide if I wanted to stick with the same old familiar, boring iOS and buy the nearly identical XS, or try something new with Android. I eventually took the plunge and got a Pixel 3.

How silly you sound. I’m pretty sure every user is allowed to complain about this glaring security flaw, not just those who use it.

I’m in no way trying to talk you into Android. People have their preferences, to each their own. Just curious as to what devices you’re comparing it to. I just see it far too many times where people see their 2 choices as spending a pretty penny on an iPhone or saving a pretty penny on a budget Android, and using…

Just FYI there are plenty of Android phones with stock (or almost entirely stock) software and no carrier BS.  Just get your parents a $200 Moto G6 and be done with it.

I think you’re right, but I also think it’s completely fair to drag Apple through the mud for it. It’s stupid easy to do (I did it to my mom before they took group FaceTime offline server-side), and it seems like a glaring oversight to not test it. “What happens when someone tries to add a number to a group that’s the…

I see Apple becoming  has become an innocuous, pro-privacy hardware and services company, with no products that are any more compelling than their competitors’.

Education ≠ Intelligence

It would’ve happened eventually with or without Apple. In 2004, I had a Dell Axim (which came out in 2002) which was basically a touchscreen smartphone without a GSM connection. I mostly used it to message peopel with AIM and browse the web. Then 5 years after that came out, Apple released the iPhone. It was sleek and…

Seriously, there is no need for all caps. But I guarantee you your attitude would not be this dismissive if this was pre-installed app on a Samsung/Android phone that allowed you to spy on anyone whose phone number you happen to have.

Apple

Enjoy being spied on, I guess.

How much did Apple pay you for this rude all caps comment?

Would you like it if somebody called you and listened in without you knowing?

In the security and privacy industry, this is about as bad as it gets. Just because you are naive does not mean it is not an issue.

God forbid journalists and media outlets publicize product faults that that allow customers to be spied on and potentially defrauded or extorted.

The mechanism of this vulnerability and ease of use is pretty extreme however. I don’t think there are others quite like this. Usually you have to trick the user into some interaction, installation of some software, or need physical access to device.

I mean, you can LITERALLY get an audio/video feed from any facetime user in the world with this bug right now. My Trump uses an iphone, to name one person. Is this not bad?

To be fair, those pigs were best in show for a few years...
And now they’ve been putting lipstick on the lipstick pig’s corpses for most of a decade.

I bet you stand in line to get your phone every year.