Maybe we are talking about something else but the F8x still has a “carbon anthracite” or something cloth for less money than full leather.

Still an option for cloth and leather. Dumb as shit or not that's how I'd spec my car.

They are growing on me. Look best in these pics. I think the orange on them from the GTS ruined them in my mind though.

Yea this dude is making things worse. You lied. You playing lawyer / pr speak is garbage. Man up. He honestly should be fired, don’t tell me Porsche didn’t know what was going on with engines they put in their SUVs.

Didn’t you smell them (diesel emissions) coming?

No suprise on price. And it’s really in line with everything they sell. Starts right at the top of the fully loaded M235 pricing, and comes with a lot standard. I’ve not driven this obviously but the chassis and refinement of the 235 vs say a loaded GT is worth the premium in my opinion upon test drives. I can only…