When I say equitable outcome - what I mean is probably closer to what youre proposing. I.e., education opps, equal access to business/personal loans, etc. Also I dont mean exactly the same - just that people with the same ed. background are in the same pay tiers etc.

Yup... I am from Alabama, lived in DC briefly and am now in Colorado. I spent all of primary school and part of my career SURROUNDED by these people - interacting with them on a daily basis both as peer and subordinate.

The OP in this thread doesnt seem to detect his own ridiculous condescension either, and so many of…

I am sure the weather is good this time of year in Stalingrad at least. Let us know.

Equitable outcomes would be a very obvious answer here.

Nuance is not your strong suit. There are plenty of reasons that people would do this including such obvious things as historical inequity - you know that whole slavery thing among other less egregious and far more recent awfulness. Of course I am sure you werent being disingenuous, because no one making these silly…

They just started in a different environment & culture than we did.

You do realize that one of the big issues that demographic has is that they are misunderstood (as per polling i.e., their words) - and they dont want someone else speaking for them. You claim to know their motivations and all of this other stuff, and yet, unsurprisingly - you cannot KNOW any of that, barring actually…

I am sure that these people would appreciate that you think that
“anything other than vote in an uninformed, tribalistic fashion.” would be implausible. 

WGAF? So sad for the “tens of thousands,” but even those that couldnt find jobs wouldnt have to deal with the threat of loss of care.

Yeah because otherwise people would just take ill on purpose to stay in hospital beds, because that’s so much fun.

smdh... As if feeling well isnt already an incentive to “stay healthy.”

people like Sanders, or Warren, only want to tax the top income class to fund the program

I just realized that in trying to humanize these people that you are also incredibly patronizing. You wont exactly be building any bridges with this sort of rhetoric:

It’s hard to take this too seriously since your analogy youth joining a gang - kind of ignores the fact that many Trump voters are college-educated professionals with plenty of perspective and experience. Their ignorance is willful, much like their complete lack of empathy.

If you cannot fathom how awful something is…

In fairness, a lot of police unions have a very antagonistic view of reform and new training, so it isnt strictly a $ issue.

Danica Patrick has fallen pretty far.

Let’s not forget that the bill will likely get shittier to appease the arch-conservative contingent that doesnt think this goes far enough. The “moderates” of the GOP cannot be relied upon to change their votes to “no” in kind.

We cannot forget that this can get worse, unlike the anti-ACA people who flog the bill for…

It would be nice if those Black SUVs werent filled with cabinet members and the first family though.

Well those salt flat cars are also much lighter and built like rockets. They are still subject to the same gs, but actual force would be less because the “x” being multiplied (i.e., the weight of the vehicle, wheels etc.) is inherently lower.

Well those salt flat cars are also much lighter and built like rockets. They are still subject to the same gs, but actual force would be less because the “x” being multiplied (i.e., the weight of the vehicle, wheels etc.) is inherently lower.

He wasnt calling her a nazi he was equating her stance with odiousness of Nazism - which also dumb, but still different.