People who voted for Clinton in the primary are far more to blame for Trump than those voted for Stein in the general.
Hugo Stiglitz
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Punching down on people that actually organize against climate change seems like a brave way to make things better.
Yes, because yelling at Green Party voters and blaming them for Trump is such a great way to get them to vote Democratic in 2020.
*Not pictured: The thousands of Obama voters who flipped to Trump or stayed home rather than vote for a neoliberal imperialist.
“For every one blue collar voter we lose in the rust belt, we will pick up two conservative Republican women in the suburbs!”
Yea, we should definitely blame the Green party. Truly, they owed their vote because it was Her Turn. How dare they vote (however foolishly) for what they believe.
Who is truly to blame? Those 6.5m Trump voters, not the 130k Green voters. But no no, keep throwing blame around - it never gets old this far out from the…
Do not presume to use the argument that voting 3rd party is in any way not an adult decision or is somehow immature. There is nothing wrong with it at all. Voting based on your principles is always a mature decision. Just because you have cynical attitude doesn’t mean it is any less a valid decision. It may be…
Freund concludes, “relatively low voting rates among Democratic voters was a bigger contributor to the results than high voting rates among Republicans. Put differently, Trump did not win the white working class, Clinton lost it.”
Her flaws were a clear sense of feeling entitled to it after losing to Barack back in ‘08, her complete disconnect with everyone who isn’t either a Wall Street banker or a liberal coastal elite, and a complete and utter lack of feeling like she should have any accountability for her wanting a private email server set…
See previous comment, but crying “white men!” is a pretty tired response. White women didn’t care for Hillary much either.
That’s a pretty dangerous mindset. What if a Latinx candidate, or LGBTQ candidate, or (insert underrepresented group here) decided that it was their turn, and their supporters ignored obvious flaws and cried “RACISM!” or “HOMOPHOBIA!” every time someone pointed these flaws out?
She was an awesome candidate whose only “flaw” was her gender.
Fucking just...
And their obsession with her and how she lost and Russia is, as well.
Jonathan - that is simply not true. There are many, many people who - at the beginning of the camapaign would have happily supported either her or Bernie in the general election. I remember being pleased as punch with both of them. Then, the DNC and Clinton campaign started doing some really dirty politcs. Cutting the…
Can people just not ask Hillary Clinton things anymore? If the Democratic party actually wants to pull its collective shit together and stop fucking around, they need to drop her like a bad habit. I don’t even think they need to go extreme left either, they just need to find some genuine, likable people. There’s no…
And if she’d gotten those three million votes where it mattered and not in her liberal enclaves on the coasts, we wouldn’t be talking about this, but well, here we are. She was a flawed, bad candidate whose hubris allowed her to get taken to the cleaners. The Democratic party should lock her and the rest of the…
Maybe you can explain that to the parents of a child with pre-existing conditions, or a Muslim, or an undocumented immigrant, or any of the other millions of people who are suffering the consequences of her hubris and incompetence.
The Clinton campaign is why we have Trump.