you nailed it. Gg is anti kotaku. Gg hates kotaku for its progressive attitudes and is willing to use anything, including a trumped up ethics charge that is clearly demonstrably false, to attack kotaku. Gg is trying to silence kotaku by attacking its advertisers. Gg has little to do with ethics in video game…

yannick could you please update the article to reflect that he did call out gg specifically by name at the end of the presentation? I'm sick of all these replies saying that he wasn't referring to them.

How the mainstream media views gamergate, from the bullpen of the New York Times.

Violence may beget violence, but YouTube videos are not equivalent to violence. That some gamergaters believe so is sorta scary. But we agree that some gamergaters do have the worst tempers. I hope they've learned how counterproductive it is to act on it. Once you've threatened to rape and kill someone, nobody really…

So any less contract than 3 drinks a week is just a professional relationship, and anything more is a personal one? Or is there more complexity to this?

well I don't like arguing hypothetical situations since its just an endless rabbit hole with no basis in fact. So I'll just say that I disagree that enabling ratings would have made any difference, and let's just agree to disagree. But my main point remains that Anita is not at all responsible for the actions of her…

not sure we completely agree. First, it's not up to Anita to provide a platform for debate. She's free to just voice her opinion, and it's up to others to find a platform to voice theirs. Luckily, with the internet, anyone can easily find a platform to debate her, whether it's creating their own YouTube vids, or…

i see your point and agree that the trolls will never be satisfied but the ethicists should be since they what they wanted, right? Or is there something they want besides the revised policies? I read this comment thread and it's filled with ethicists defending gg, but haven't the ethicists already won? I don't…

the sarkeesian effect- when the screaming and vitriol of one person's critics' attempts to shout over and silence her lead to the general public hearing about it, thereby giving that person a much larger platform to spread her message than she would ever have been able to achieve on her own

As a journalist, what do you consider to be the "win conditions"for gg? I mean, kotaku and polygon have already updated their ethics guidelines to reflect what I think gg wants, but gg doesn't seem to be slowing down. At what point do you think the video game journalism ethicists are happy with their accomplishments?

so what's the line between a good working relationship and a personal connection? There are plenty of people I work with who I am friendly with but I wouldn't consider then my friends. What's the sniff test that determines when the line is crossed?

so kotaku and polygon have already amended their ethics guidelines to say this. Why are they still targeted by gg? When is this ever going to end?

So I feel like I've been pretty consistent in not attributing the actions of a few to the entire group. Earlier I've refereed to gg moderates and gg bad actors, and my question is why don't the moderates leave behind all the negativity of being associated with the bad actors. And I think gg is a group of people acting…

I respectfully disagree. I think they all believe in things. Zoe believes in the value of her games, Brianna believes that gamergate is a bad thing, and so does Felicia. All these things got them targeted by gamergate. And here's the thing about civil discourse-i don't require that anything you believe in anything…

actually there are lots of ppl who will have their names dragged through the mud for something they believe in. Felicia, Brianna, Anita, and Zoe are the first ones to come to my mind.

i see what you are saying. As someone who's fairly politically active, I've learned to just let that stuff roll off me. I read that Greek guy's article on breibart and even though it was compete inflammatory clickbait, I just laughed it off for what it was- trolling. It's a matter of picking your media sources. Even…

Yeah once I start reading media that calls people idiots, my mind automatically turns off to the possibility that I'm reading an unbiased piece. But I have seen also spiteful language layered on top of complex ideas too so I try not to completely disregard it either. It helps that I've long ago lost the ability to…

My impression is that most gamergate articles, including this one, recognize that there is a "reasonable" faction of gg and a doxxer side, so I don't think it's fair to say that the articles painting all of gg in a single color. You seem pretty loyal to the gg hashtag so I have a question for you. Is there any…

So I would guess that people would cross the street to avoid gamers not because Leigh Alexander calls gamers bad names, but because gamers have been doxxing and threatening their critics, a fact that is making mainstream news. It's not journalism's fault for reporting that, it's the people acting maliciously. And most…

i find that really interesting because I consider myself both those things too and I've watched all her videos and I didn't have nearly as strong a reaction. Could you elaborate on why you find her so offensive?