“...hatch that doesn’t require a fire breathing turbocharged... the Fiesta ST fits the bill, but it’s kind of tiny...”

You know there’s more to an engine than hp/liter?

They don’t cover it if you aren’t driving, and your rates go up in the event of a crash. Seems simple.

Hmm, do I drive someone else’s beat-on 911 for $1000 for 1 day, or do I put that money down towards a real Porsche with a warranty for less than $1000/month financed.

“Would you put your car up for rent on Turo?”

...assault with intent to do great bodily harm less than murder...

Driver: check out my vtec, yo.

“Allemon felt his vehicle was disrespected when the victim installed eBay coilovers and a “Shocker” decal on his rear window inset with a Japanese Rising Sun design,” the release says.

It is all just meh, it drives meh, it looks meh, it’s power is meh, it is just a very meh vehicle. Sure it looks ok, though not that great and it won’t age well, but at least GM is trying. I’d still take a Golf or Mazda over this any day, at least those have some soul.

I mean the autopilot obviously failed in the sense that it didn’t see a fucking truck. As designed, the driver is supposed to take over in that situation, and ultimately the fault rests with him, but I don’t think you can consider not seeing and avoiding a 12' high object in the middle of the road a non-failure.

I just don’t think we need to live in a world where some cars have people paying no attention and are relying solely on sensors to keep them and everyone around them alive

I just don’t see the need for this for personal transportation. If they want to build separate lanes for trucks and have them autopilot, fine. I just don’t think we need to live in a world where some cars have people paying no attention and are relying solely on sensors to keep them and everyone around them alive

Agreed that the driver is at fault here for not paying attention when the system failed to work properly. But I’m posing a larger question here.

remember when a volvo engineer said tesla wannabe autopilot was dangerous and people jumped on him? i do

Thats the point. They still have tried to make it so in everyway possible and seem to know what they are doing as well as anyone else.

Of course, but I still stand by my original statement. If you have to slap that sort of disclaimer on a product, it is likely not ready for public use. Especially on something where failure could result in death.

still in a public beta phase

Ok, that’s a reasonable way to look at it.

Volvo’s “issue” is that a Level 3 autonomous system is inherently dangerous and shouldn’t be used at all, due to the allowance of distraction for the driver but reliance on the driver to take over in emergency conditions.