Wow, this is seriously great stuff! Amid all the nonsense and hype and pointing of fingers, theRoot brings us back to reason & reality. Sadly, such a sober analysis will not draw many clicks, or maybe it’s my cynical side speaking.

I’m with you! Biden destroyed a whole generation of Black people and it may take another generation to recover yet you have black pundits, commentators etc almost celebrating his frontrunner status. Why do we continue to forgive and reward those who do us harm? I just don’t get that kind of politics.

Obviously platforms don’t matter or else we wouldn’t hate Trump as president.

I couldn’t even fucking listen to the whole thing it pissed me off so fucking bad. The second Rep. Clyburn said that a candidate had to explain to people what their candidacy means to people, knowing that he endorsed the fucking empty suit that is Joe “I’m trying to ride Obama’s coattails but haven’t offered you jack…

My favorite part will be when Bernie supporters somehow get blamed for Biden’s general election loss.

THANK YOU!!!

Out of all the good takes out there, this one is the best and most correct imo.

And what are you saying to the Black people who think that the southern Black vote is fucking the rest of over? Again.

That’s a long way around to get to deflective bullshit. There are shorter paths. But, I guess, like the Supreme Court opinions, if you can’t say it simply, bury it in pedantry, witticism, whataboutisms, and accuse the reader of being daft.

What I meant by that is that it matters for blue v. red counts. That does matter for speaker position, etc. But if you can’t get them to vote with you, you don’t have numbers for votes, which means you don’t have policy.

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As do the results of the subsequent votes of those members. Having a “blue dog” that votes with republicans in a divided house doesn’t really provide you anything other than a number.

I didn’t say progressives had the formula to win elections, but then again 2016 didn’t suggest centrists do, either.

He was an incumbent. He didn’t face a progressive.

That would be a more honest take than this idiocy of claiming that wanting your politician not to be beholden to big money interest is somehow anti-Black. That take is without a doubt one of the stupidest things that isn’t gray that’s been said around here.

Which is part of why every Dem presidential candidate since 1992 has been a conservative.

Oh for fuck’s sake. Look how many goddamn Black “leaders” were quick to endorse Bloomberg after taking his fucking money.

Elizabeth Warren spent most of her campaign polling in the single digits with black voters. Once you accept that, then the failure of her campaign was completely and utterly predictable. The same is true for Amy and Pete.

I wish people would stop talking about the popular vote, it doesn’t count for jack shit in our current system. We need a candidate that can win the EC vote, not be a doomed moral victor with the so called popular vote. Maybe one day we can change that system, but first we have to win under the current one. Having all…