I agree, I always hated the “it didn’t happen to Sansa in the books!” Criticism. Like, how does it happening to her non-pov friend make it any better?

Yes, the director chose not to film a just turned 18 year old girl he’d known since she was 12 being brutally raped.

That episode was rough. And it seemed to go on forever.

That was the most egregious thing to me. Don’t fucking lecture women on how rape happens irl. We know that better than you, assholes.

Yes! The stark difference between a woman raped on screen, and women being raped all over the world is that the former is done for entertainment purposes. The medium is the message. And when a woman is violently raped, and then we cut to commercial, or simply other scenes, the psyche has no time to integrate the…

So... you’re going to be one of those people who tells women how to think and explains how what they think/believe is wrong..? Don’t be one of those people BusPassTrollop. Don’t.

I think the best critique of this scene isn’t that Sansa was raped, but that Jon Snow and Sam Tarley were not. You know, because this show is all about “realism” but male rape doesn’t exist because the audience would feel uncomfortable with dudes being raped on screen.

Yeah rape is not something most women need or want to be reminded of and that’s a bullshit reason to put a rape scene in a show or film.

She’s also very young, and privileged. That’s not an excuse as much as... well. I was young and (am still) privileged, and didn’t (still don’t) always get this stuff right when talking about it.

It wasn’t gratuitous. It was directly from the book. Except the book disgustingly made it a non-POV character and it was all about Theon’s redemption saving a girl everyone forgot about from the first book. All of those chapters are how tortured poor Reek is having to watch a girl being raped by dogs.

So, she doesn’t get it. Not a shock. I imagine women in her position have to remain sycophantic to the male ‘geniuses’ surrounding them.

Of course, it’s a sensitive subject. And there is still such a taboo surrounding subjects like that and you don’t really see it portrayed onscreen that much.

“The police later admitted that only two of the seven men or boys arrested for the Putte i Parken incidents were from HVB homes – residential homes for young people, often refugees without parents. There’s even less evidence to suggest the rapes at Bravalla were carried out by immigrants – but the two were instantly…

Remember what happened after the women only WW showing. An entire music festival open only to women? Lordy it will be armangeddon.

My first Melissa Etheridge concert was at The Greek in Los Angeles. The ratio seemed to be, at least to me, about 80% female, 20% male. We were walking to our seats and these two guys, early 20s, came barreling through the crowd and one of them slammed into me, almost knocking me down. I shouted “Hey!” like you do…

Dude, you brought race into this, not me. This discussion has nothing to do with race, only with women wanting a space where they are safe from sexual harassment/assault. So what the hell is your problem? You sound crazy.

“Could you imagine the outrage if there was a male only festival? During White History Month!”

It’s stressful to agree with both of you on this.

Hmm I see your point but I’m inclined to believe that last year’s festivities were 95% professional photoshoot and 5% actual fun. Everything was SO staged. I bet there were contracts.

“She’s being more careful this year. She’s learning.”