Meanwhile, 38 years ago ...

Precisely. My little cousin got in a bunch of trouble once because her parents found out she'd been watching porn. All I could think was that she was 12, curious about her body, and wanted to know more. Such a missed opportunity to explain why porn isn't appropriate for her just yet, but that there are other sources…

Nuh-uh. Seeing your first real-life boner is jarring. Seeing a penis on a baby doll (or naked statue or actual baby or whatever) is no big deal unless your parents make it a big deal.

No, it's you. It's definitely you.

If you pressure a woman into sex and you can't figure out that she doesn't actually want to be having sex with you at all, you're too stupid or too evil to be having sex.

And you don't that's treating a grown woman like a child?

Number one, it's rape because you can't stick your dick in somebody without asking first. Number two, she was drunk. DRUNK PEOPLE CANNOT CONSENT TO SEX. Number three, she didn't say no, but she never said yes. CONSENT MEANS SAYING YES. The default is not, have sex with this person unless they say no. The default is,…

For someone who is talking about physical defense a lot, I bet you know nothing about it. Unless you've been in a fight, a real fight, you would not know how to react. And people react to fights and threats differently. Something you would know if you had basic martial arts training. You're just a punk ass troll…

If the woman consents, by definition it isn't rape. What you are talking about is not consent. You cannot consent under duress. You cannot consent while drunk.

Hm, look at that, constant mental health slurs, more lies, and there you are, ignoring that you said Watson WENT TO MCGRAW'S SCHOOL. In fact, you don't address any of the substantial things you got wrong, so fuck you and your mental illness slurs and fuck off.

Bye, troll. Pro-tip: calling somebody crazy automatically gets you dismissed.

Look, there's no rule that says it isn't rape unless a woman kicks and screams. Sex without consent is rape. Period. Full stop. I can try to explain why a woman doesn't always kick and scream when she's being raped but I can't make you understand. You're placing the burden of not getting raped on the rape victim when…

I do not think women are children. This has nothing to do with infantilizing women and everything to do with not having sex with people who aren't 100% on board with it. It's about respecting women's choices.

I'm confused. I don't see any issue that. It should include that in the definition.

Sex requires informed, enthusiastic consent. If you pressure a woman into sex until she either says yes just so you'll stop or she just goes limp and passive, and she clearly is not enjoying it and doesn't want to be there, then yes, that is rape.

Studies have shown people who rape do so multiple times and use circumstances to deter victims from reporting - so the theoretical 'grey area rapist' is a complete misunderstanding. Surveys of people who have committed rape (and admit to it when it's not called rape) show that it is premeditated and coercion is a…

Rape is rape, as far as I'm concerned. I think you're confusing statutory rape with date rape.

Seriously, it's like he ran out of ways to bother people.

Why do Dawkins, and apparently you, think you get to quantify the trauma someone else experiences?

Why would he even draw a distinction (where there really is none) in the first place? There is no fundamental difference in the acts themselves.