I have empathy but that isn’t the primary argument. The addiction/kids argument is a shield for people that hate lootboxes in their games. They have zero problem with addictive gameplay loops that have no payoff that convince people to buy an additional iterative game every year. It is a predatory practice but not…

I say it has nothing to do with manipulation because that is not the discussion. I should have been more clear.

Manipulation is legal and encouraged in a capitalist world. There are laws on how predatory things can be but they are pretty broad (speaking for the US only as that is where I live).

Being manipulative and…

Replying to both your posts here as I hate how hard kinja makes things.

1. re: Flip and rip, we play commander casually and if someone is going to cheat, they will cheat regardless and then won’t play with them anymore. In any event with outside players, obviously those aren’t allowed. as for demand? shrug. Don’t want…

How is it a blatant miscategorization?
The rewards are not a thing of value, there is zero implication of promise of value being awarded.

The loot boxes are not the game. they are a feature of the game where you can purchase a thing and get other things at random.

It is not gambling as loot boxes and similar do not…

Slot machines and similar gambling elements have a potential promised value. In most cases actual money or declared value. There is a promise of potential payout. There is no argument that you could win a thing of value from a slot machine. (Money or chips or whatever)

You aren’t making a purchase. There is no…

Is it predatory? Yes. Definitely.
Slot machines promise a payout of X value or something that can be exchanged for a predetermined specific value. Thus it is gambling.

Preying on people’s addictions is absolutely shitty. However that is capitalism at its finest. We have aisles of sugary products that are killing by the…

The cards, like most loot boxes have no intrinsic or implied value. You could open a bag of cheetos and I could say OMG ILL GIVE YOU $10 FOR THE ONE THAT IS SHAPED LIKE GENE SHALIT’S MOUSTACHE! and you could take it. It doesn’t mean there is potential value in the bag of cheetos Cheetos promised you a bag of…

1. Flip or rip is my favorite thing to do with collector’s packs. There is nothing like seeing a valuable card ripped in half later in someone’s commander deck. That card has a history and a story. (Plus no one will bug you to trade it)

Which is completely permissible by law. We don’t have to like it. Nor do we need to support it. That’s our choice. 

Or baseball card packs or TCG packs, or Mystery toys or randomized loot crates?

With Leonardo DiCaprio no less!

This game is very very very very very good.
very very very very very good.

Also Bust a Groove 2 is stellar as well.

We’re from chicago.

That’s my point, wizards never sold full sets of cards or anything. thats kind of the opposite of a trading card game.

“I found the kids and got my brothers card back, so as a present, my mum brought me this rare collection direct from the Pokémon creators in the US for about £300.

Yeah I have been in closets much more terrifying than this back in the late 90's and early 2000's. Maybe a window AC unit that barely functions struggling to keep the temperature below 110....good luck disconnecting anything or walking without dying.

Gasp. People having fun with things you don’t like. 

Nothing has been announced for PC yet, Just “PC, Playstation 4, and PC...”
I hope they announce something soon.

I think one of them at Chuck E Cheese near me as a kid had a hammer for a little while. They were called Wacky Gator.

This was a ton of fun, and the voice work made it all that much better.

“I’M GONNA GET YOU!”
“NOW I’M REALLY ANGRY!”
“Ow. ow. ow ow. ow.”

My dream is the original version of Prey: A Talon Brave Game  from 1998 gets leaked in a playable form.