I had to go to the police station a couple times to file a report for a missing child and again for when I was mugged at knifepoint.
Can't decide which would be worse: chaos and screaming people storming the doors while I was inside still shaking from the mugging or walking into a police station past that Eviction…

What did they expect would happen if they stormed a police station? Milk and cookies before bed?

Okay, hear me out here. Protesting = good. Storming a building full of police officers = not good.

"your mom" was just a stupid insult like your ragging on me for repeating myself. I should have said "your mom is getting old", then it would have clearly been a "your momma" joke.

If the constitution was meant to be a constantly evolving document and rights were meant to be given and taken at whim by the government, the system would not have been set up in such a way as to make that difficult to do.

I realize that now. I apologized for my misunderstanding (and it really was) upthread. I can be an asshole, and I can make mistakes, but when I do, I don't double down.

80% of people shot with a handgun survive. (This was a statistic presented by the sheriff's department in my area and was not a locality specific statistic.)

My .45 has a grip safety as well — the .22 doesn't, but who'd take a 22LR as their daily carry? I mean, unless you expect to have to defend yourself against squirrels or tin cans.

If your police force don't carry guns, I respect the consistency and honesty of that. Nevertheless, no one has the right to tell me I can't defend myself, and I choose to live in a country with the right to bear arms. And my right to self defense does not end when I leave my house.

I agree the gun would have been useless to her the way she was carrying it. If she wanted/needed to carry it should have been on body. The only "change to law" I would support in light of this is including more specific and copious warnings about off-body carry in certification courses. Particularly mentioning dangers…

If you live in America. Please leave. There are plenty of countries you can go live in without wrecking mine. This "gun culture bullshit" is why we have a constitutional republic. If you read the words of all the founders they all were very clear that the individual had the right to bear arms because without a means…

The mother's utter stupidity and irresponsibility got herself killed, rendered her children motherless, and put the burden of killing his mother on a 2 year old who will have to live with that his entire life.

If she was going to carry, she should have carried on-body with a proper concealed holster, and with kids, it should have been a retention holster like what police officers use.

But if the situation had been a different one with this woman... if she'd been in a situation with a violent criminal and had no credible means of defending herself and the criminal stabbed her to death... a gun might have meant NO death... at least not for an innocent. Whether or not a gun in a situation helps or…

Maybe her husband told her he was going to kill all of their children.

Probably some type of revolver, which is the typical (poor) choice offered to women because many male gun owners/sales people assume the modern semi-autos with safeties and other features are "too complex" for women.

Yes, also a result of irresponsible adults. No child should be shooting a fucking Uzi for any reason.

Responsible gun owners do not keep their loaded weapon in an insecure position, such as a purse that is left unattended next to a toddler.

I'm really curious what kind of hair-trigger loaded weapon with either the safety off or a similarly hair-triggered safety mechanism a two-year-old could manage to fire.

Nothing tragic about this. This was wholly predictable and preventable. Shit happens as a result of your choices. You have the right to choose to do almost whatever you want to, but don't expect me to cry when your choices bite you.