I avoid scotch because it tastes like headache-flavored bog run-off, not because it has a man’s name on it (heyyyy Captain Morgan). They’re proving what they’re trying to disprove, which is sad.

You’re just moving goalposts now. I never said novelty was the be all and end all of quality cinema but I do expect something more than the status quo in content from Best Picture nominees. There is nothing wrong with liking SoW, but don’t pretend like it isn’t a retread of a familiar story... or that it IS a retread…

Don’t you remember the verse in Jeb 69:420 that goes, “Retain thee thy cluster of cells nascent in thy womb for that cluster has the DNA of homo sapiens and forget about that part where this book says life begins with first breath that shit was in Genesis where we talk about creating a universe in like 7 days for…

Incredible slip (?) making “what about” one word as you launch into whataboutism.

What an incredibly weird thing to say.

They put the minds of the old white people into the bodies of the black people so that the white people can continue living and regain lost abilities. The white mind is then in contorol, although the black mind can sense everything and think and even regain control with intense effort.

Um... All of them pretty much? How on earth can you come to me saying it’s supposed to be trite because it’s a fairy tale and then challenge me for saying it’s trite? Besides the cookie cutter characters I’ve already mentioned, the narrative of outcast girl/boy finds outcast boy/girl who has special powers that save…

Aw thanks! Very much agree about La La Land, its ending was unexpected and earned and very moving to me, while SoW had a sequence of events that was obvious to the point of parody. But they’re both great movies, they just have this hyper-aware quasi-self-referential thing going on that makes them similar in my mind.

Call Me was good, though a little odd and uncomfortable for me. I still can’t quite decide what it was trying to convey, but I know I want to go to Northern Italy in the 80s with Sufjan and Armie! It’s worth watching.

I didn’t come up with that btw.

Starks and Desecration!

It kills AND debones AND cooks your meat for you! Brilliant.

Having expectations was your first mistake ;) It was good and entertaining but hollow. It gave me literally nothing to think or talk about later (except for how egregious the hype was). I definitely can enjoy movies like that, but I cannot understand why this one is being put on such a high pedestal.

Joanna you forgot the part where Elio cums in a peach and Oliver wants to eat it!

Hard agree. Also, THAT IS NOT HOW LISZT WOULD HAVE PLAYED IT IF HE HAD ALTERED BACH’S VERSION.

I absolutely and utterly disagree with the idea that because it’s a fairy tale, it is automatically excused from any criticism of lazy and trite themes and characters, especially from a director of Del Toro’s caliber. It’s a cute movie and I happen to think that he should win Best Director, but I have every right to…

OMG you are so embarrassing.

OMG so agree about Octavia! I appreciated that the main characters were non-normative per typical Hollywood stories - the protagonists are a woman with a disability, a gay man, black woman, and a feral fish (I guess), and the bad guy is a white straight male. Yet for all the dimensions they went out in, they were all…

Sorry! I can’t say it’s bad, because it is a quality film. But I can’t say it’s really good, because it was predictable and derivative, sometimes in a nice familiar way, sometimes in a stupid boring way. It reads as an homage to itself, like La La Land with less music and more fish sex.

I don’t know, but I enjoyed it the way I enjoy hearing a decent joke for the 100th time but told really well this time.