IKR? She was in a frickin car, she could’ve just driven away and called the cops, instead she chose to go out and shoot him.

I fail to see what stealing has to do with the current discussion. I haven’t mentioned stealing anywhere.

The long-term consequences are for the other victims they will have if they’re not rehabilitated now. But that doesn’t even occur to you, because you count among the dumb people you mentioned. Bye.

So your personal satisfaction is more important than making sure that no further people suffer such attacks at their hands. There are zero thoughts about the future and long-term consequences. And then I bet you’ll go and whine about how innefective and cruel American prison system is in another article. And people…

A child is a child is a child, regardless of who they are and what they do. You’re right, 18 is an arbitrary age people picked to say someone’s reached a majority. People actually continue to mature way after that age, both physiologically AND psychologically.

It pretty much does, if they’re put in an adult prison tbh.

I expressly said several times that I am very much against calling such a violent crime a mistake. As for whether they can be rehabilitated, actual specialists have long proven that at such a young age violent offenders can be successfully rehabilitated. It takes, however, time, effort and compassion for people -…

Still not a reason good enough to pile on him.

So, basically, teenagers, but gay. Shocking.

Why is this is even a drama? Why do people care? Everyone involved in this need to do something productive with their time.

They are not adults. If an actual adult had sex with them you’d rightfully be calling that adult a pedophile and a rapist. You can’t pick and choose when one individual is a child based on how much you like them. Also, if you do try them as adults they end up in the adult prison system - among other violent racist…

While I agree that they are still children and should not be named, I also think that this is not a mistake. It is a violent crime that should have serious consequences. These children need to be institutionalized and actively and intensely rehabilitated, lest they become an even bigger threat once they become adults.

I don’t question mine at all. I think it’s more important than ever that these little shits not end up among other prison population. If they’re not rehabilitated, actively and intensely, rather than put among prison gangs, including racist prison gangs, they will end up as a much bigger threat to people of colour…

And yet if someone older than them had sexual contact with them you’d (rightfully), I hope, call those people pedophiles. Teenagers are either children, or they’re adults, people cannot and should not be able to pick and choose what they are depending on whether they view them as victims or perpetrators of a crime.…

People really should stop calling crimes - especially violent crimes - mistakes, regardless of the age of the attackers. A child - and at 14 the perpetrators ARE children - committing such an act shows there’s something deeply, fundamentally wrong with them. They need both punishment and therapy so they wouldn’t pose…

And then what? Already poorly socialized children going to jail will certainly produce good members of society once they come out - and they WILL come out. They need to be punished, absolutely, and they also need therapy and reeducation. At 14 they can still be rehabilitated and turned into productive members of…

I am watching it. Noel Fielding is passably funny and warm, but the two new ladies are completely interchangeable to me. A pair of middle-aged British ladies with very similar blonde haircuts and similar voices. I can never remember their names nor can I distinguish them from each other most of the time.

14 years ago was hardly the Internet age.

There’s nothing generational about it. Sharon Osborne had a very poor choice of words when she called KK a “ho” but the rest of her logic is rock solid, as far as I am concerned. I am mid-30s.

It’s polarizing because for a lot of undereducated, selfish young women sex-positive feminism amounts to “I am doing exactly what patriarchy wants me to do, I fight for no change, I help no women around me, but since I claim that this is my choice and because I am a woman making a choice I am an empowered feminist”…