You have no idea how math works.

Its almost like Republicans have refused to adjust Social Security for inflation.

I don’t know your state, but I seriously doubt they pull numbers out of thin air. Cops in my state pay 10.9% of their pay into the pension system. I don’t know how much the city matches. When they retire the pension is calculated at a 7% rate of return.

Yes, socialists usually have very little working experience. I strongly suspect I’m right in this case. Your comments still do not make sense. Doctors make a lot of money, as they should. If you haven’t been working hard enough in school to get into a good college or med school, then you don’t deserve to make the same…

that is how insurance works. SSA/Medicare/Medicaid is retirement, disability and health insurance

That’s pretty ridiculous. I’m going to guess that you don’t have much real world experience yet. If you pay people when they don’t work, many of them are not going to work.

I find your self-righteous attitude stupid so I guess we are even. I’m all for helping people. I do it voluntarily. If I had more of my money available I would give even more. You are not a hero because you don’t mind the government wasting your money in a ponzi scheme.

Redistribution is good and should be the aim of all tax policy.

Not really. It’s still apples-to-oranges. The question is what it pays for her home, not yours.

I never said it was good. You made that up. I said it was impossible. Because of the ridiculous amount of money the country spends, the flat rate would be impossibly high for the poor and middle class.

Since we lived in the same state, it certainly is apples to apples.

I know. I never said otherwise. I have to explain that to people all the time when they advocate for a flat tax. It’s not possible because so few pay so much as it is. That doesn’t make them a piggy bank to pay for your retirement.

You can’t justify it to me because the math doesn’t work. It’s extremely inefficient. My grandmother worked most of her life got $600 a .month from social security. That wouldn’t cover the property tax on my house. The issue is if that same money were invested in almost anything she would have received much more. I…

Take a look at many of the proposals here. Lots of people want to steal from the rich. Doing away with the social security cap is stealing because it’s money they will never get back. SS was not meant to be welfare.

Good thing you’re not jealous. :)

Uh.. Of course I do. I can have opinions like anyone else, whether you agree with them or not. And yes, what the other commenter was proposing was communism. You need to look up the definition.

I find it odd that you see someone else’s money as your money.

Healthcare has nothing to do with social security.

I agree that’s what it is. I don’t agree that’s what it should be. It was turned into a giant Ponzi scheme. We can’t take it away from people who earned it now, but there is no doubt that it’s an incredibly inefficient way to save money.

I’m not sure why you are making up the same argument as Volante3192. I’m not anti-government and never said anything like it. I’m against a retirement program that has a negative rate of return.