In all fairness to Hitler (a phrase I use surprisingly infrequently) he was a spectacularly successful murderer.

Just thinking about this... do we remember artists after their civilizations have passed?

a fucking pez dispenser

I’m not worried about me sexualising her. Are you honestly saying you wouldn’t worry about a 13 year old being topless in a public area? I would suggest you would be in quite a small minority

Now now, p24 could just say ‘Be charming, considerate and thoughtful’

The solution then isn’t to change the word, but the place the word comes from.

Thank you. I have a feeling I didn’t make any friends with my original post and I could have worded it better, but it frustrates me that people assumed I was saying “what about the menz!” But whatever, it’s 1.30am and I can’t argue/explain/discuss anymore.

With respect, you’ve missed the point. I’m not criticising the respondents, I’m criticising the coverage. There has been no critical thought put into what these changes mean and don’t mean.

Isn’t one of the words ‘diet’? Absolutely rule 1 of any form of healthy living is getting your diet under control. Is the word diet harmful? Does removing it benefit anyone?

But won’t the replacement eventually hurt just as much?

The readership could be part of the difference. The people who I know who get Men’s Health tend to already be active and, if not already in shape, determined to be in shape as soon as they can.

Yeah, it teaches girls they have something to hide. Which is a shame.

Sorry, partially was in response to

Because the point I am making, again, is that the terms that are being ditched Are not. In themselves. Harmful. To illustrate this, I used the examples of Men’s Health magazines, a direct parallel of Women’s Health magazines to show that the same words are not perceived to be negative there. I wasn’t asking for people…

But by looking at the issue in a vacuum aren’t you risking missing other factors?

Partially. I’m certainly not suggesting that there’s anything wrong with men’s magazines (beyond the photoshopping) or with the approach men take to them.

Yeah, I remember being a kid and me and the other kids at the beach (younger than age 5 or 6) used to happily run around naked and play in the surf. I think that age has been dialled back to about two now before people start to get uncomfortable.

What’s the difference between ‘Bikini Body’ for women and ‘Beach Body’ for men?

Yeah, nor do I. Perhaps I wasn’t being clear as two people have misunderstood so far. I’m saying that this change isn’t any real improvement. Men’s magazines have the same tone and presentation, but no-one has any issues with that.

Oh no, I actually don’t mind it really. The general goals of eating healthier and working out more and more effectively are fine goals to aim for. Even if you can’t make the standard of the cover models, you’ll be in better shape than not trying at all.