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Sorry, but white women were backing Hillary Clinton way before Trump came on the scene.

And I’ll say it back—WOC have put other causes before feminism for a long—with some justification, but feminism is white, in part, because WOC have focused more on other causes. Feminism is considered secondary. Not surprisingly,

I told you how women were thrown under the bus by abolitionists. Suffrage for women was deliberately removed from the 14th because it was thought that the amendment wouldn’t pass with it. Then female suffrage was pretty much dropped as a cause by everyone but white feminists.

It took 60 years to get women the vote.

And

Except that you’re preaching to people who voted against Donald Trump and assuming that feminism will affect how conservative women vote. If anything, the discussion of identity politics antagonized these people.

And the blunt historical truth is that feminism has always taken a back seat to other forms of civil

Yes, and one of the many reasons I loath Trump is because of how he demonizes groups people. He’s a racist pig—why on earth would I want to emulate his “reasoning”?

Look, just because he does it in one direction, doesn’t mean it’s a good idea to do it in the other.

Okay, as for convincing “my people”—my sense is that

Moved left? You mean politically? Trump/Clinton was actually as big a gender split as there’s ever been. Personally, I’d have a hard time being married to someone with radically different politics.

Uh, no. I’m pointing out the obvious—there are a lot of white voters, a whole lot of white voters—six times as many white voters than black. In other words, your average Clinton voter was most likely to be a white woman. So, it’s pretty understandable that a lot of the people who marched were white women who had,

I didn’t make the rules either. If you’re saying my pale skin means I’ll have an easier time getting through to a Trumpster—well, yes, or at least I’ll have a safer time. Where I have a bone to pick is with the idea that I’m responsible for the behavior of someone else because we share a skin color. White people

Okay, but, I don’t even know many of those these days. It’s gotten ferociously active out there. But, then, I grew up politically active in a politically active area.

It does come down to bubbles, I suppose, you become friends with people who have things in common with you. In my case, my friends are diverse

Sounds like you’re discussing both, no? And, no, you can’t hold someone accountable for someone else’s actions because of skin color. Do I even have to tell you *why* that’s a bad idea?

Of course there is. But there are a lot of white women Democrats. In fact, there are more white women Democrats than there are black women Democrats. There are around 27 million eligible black voters v. 156 million eligible white ones. And those white women Democrats broke for Clinton—more than they did for Obama as

You mean the way black women supported Hillary Clinton over Barack Obama in 2008? Oh right.

Hey I don’t actually have a problem with that choice, but let’s not pretend that this is all cut and dried.

Personally, I don’t know any white women who voted for Trump. None. Nada. Not sure why you’re assuming all white people are bonded together by skin color. I’d think a look at the history of Europe would show we’re not the “race” that’s good at coming together as one.

So, basically you’re saying that because racists lump all black people together, turn-about is fair play? Well, maybe, but it’s also kind of dumb and unhelpful.

Because you know what? Fact is, Hillary Clinton WON the popular vote—by 3 million. The issue here isn’t white women, it’s that the playing field is so skewed

And around 89 percent of Democrats voted for Hillary. Party affiliation matters and was a much bigger indicator about where the vote would go than race.

Yep. I live in a very blue area of a very blue state. Not only do I not know anyone personally who voted for Trump, I don’t know anyone in my FB circle. Even my country farmer cousin was very pro-Hillary. The best I can do is occasionally find a FOAF on a thread somewhere.

I have way more in common with

Where are you getting your stats? Clinton won white women voters with college educations—a switch from Obama/Romney.

It’s not about her being there, they left her off their LONG list of honorees.

Linda Sarsour is Bernie’s bitch.

Yes, I’m furious about this. It’s all because Linda Sarsour, one of the march organizers, is a petty Berner. Talk about appropriation.

I’m still marching, but I’m wearing Hillary gear because of this.

So I’ve been knitting a ton of these Pussy Hats—made the mistake of posting some ones I’d made on Facebook—turned out I have a lot of friends who wanted PussyHats. Instead of knitting 10, I’m now knitting 26. My kid’s male conservative piano teacher comes over. I mention the hats because, hey, at least he won’t want

One key thing—and probably the only thing Arnie did right—he pushed through that proposition that got rid of gerrymandering. Little did he know that the end gerrymandering meant a supermajority of Democrats in the CA legislature. The reason we function now is that the Republicans can no longer mire us in endless