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You mean the way black women supported Hillary Clinton over Barack Obama in 2008? Oh right.

Hey I don’t actually have a problem with that choice, but let’s not pretend that this is all cut and dried.

Personally, I don’t know any white women who voted for Trump. None. Nada. Not sure why you’re assuming all white people are bonded together by skin color. I’d think a look at the history of Europe would show we’re not the “race” that’s good at coming together as one.

So, basically you’re saying that because racists lump all black people together, turn-about is fair play? Well, maybe, but it’s also kind of dumb and unhelpful.

Because you know what? Fact is, Hillary Clinton WON the popular vote—by 3 million. The issue here isn’t white women, it’s that the playing field is so skewed

And around 89 percent of Democrats voted for Hillary. Party affiliation matters and was a much bigger indicator about where the vote would go than race.

Yep. I live in a very blue area of a very blue state. Not only do I not know anyone personally who voted for Trump, I don’t know anyone in my FB circle. Even my country farmer cousin was very pro-Hillary. The best I can do is occasionally find a FOAF on a thread somewhere.

I have way more in common with

Where are you getting your stats? Clinton won white women voters with college educations—a switch from Obama/Romney.

It’s not about her being there, they left her off their LONG list of honorees.

Linda Sarsour is Bernie’s bitch.

Yes, I’m furious about this. It’s all because Linda Sarsour, one of the march organizers, is a petty Berner. Talk about appropriation.

I’m still marching, but I’m wearing Hillary gear because of this.

Can someone explain to me why California is spared even when states next door are getting blacked out? I’d like to be able to gloat knowledgeably.

I’m not a believer myself, but I get why people are. Reality can be pretty damn brutal—and we’re living in good times where we don’t expect a third of babies to die or one-in-three women in childbirth.

So I’ve been knitting a ton of these Pussy Hats—made the mistake of posting some ones I’d made on Facebook—turned out I have a lot of friends who wanted PussyHats. Instead of knitting 10, I’m now knitting 26. My kid’s male conservative piano teacher comes over. I mention the hats because, hey, at least he won’t want

These days, we need all the good news we can get. :)

Thank you. One of the many things I like about Butler is that there’s a lot to think about in her work. A friend of mine liked Butler because “She gets the biology right.”—she really admired how Butler conceived of a species with three sexes and how that third sex would work. I love her matter-of-fact low-key

I’ve not read the two Parable books—I own them and keep saving them as my last unread Butlers—but I’d say Kindred over Xenogenesis—Xeno has truly weird aliens (i.e. SFX costs) and it is *dark.* I think that would scare Hollywood. Kindred is dark, too, but more contained—one woman’s story—sort of the anti-Roots. But,

Funny you say that. I got my teen daughter to read Blood Child—she was blown away. She then had a school assignment to write a letter to an official. She’d convinced a fellow student that the English curriculum needed more works by and about women. This student wanted to cowrite the school board about this issue with

Yeah, I don’t really like the art, but I suppose it’s because I have my picture of Dana that’s a little less Walking Dead in style.

Now, that’s an interesting question, which is Butler’s scariest book? I find Kindred less scary than heartbreaking—and it is heartbreaking to me; devastating. Dawn scares me—the point when Lilith realizes she can no longer touch her lover without pain and that’s just the way it’s going to be. Clay’s Ark scares me in a

And I’ve still not read Parable—I’ve held on to the two books as something to look forward to when I needed a new Butler fix—but, wow, now is clearly the time. Of course she was prescient—she was so acute.

But, anyway, I read Wild Seed first, then hopped over to the Xenogenesis trilogy, then Kindred. Then I came back

Yeah, my first thought as well—why not have Octavia Butler’s own writing be the introduction to Octavia Butler’s writing? I mean graphic novel—great—but I processed Kindred just fine on my own. I actually started with *Wild Seed*—that, too, was fine. I gave my teen daughter “Blood Child” to read and she was blown away

I don’t think so. It wouldn’t be the same, but it’s not like Carrie Fisher was fired—she died and the studio would be making the best of a bad situation. Most fans would understand that. There are tons of older actresses, I’m sure one could manage a passable Leia. It beats mangling the entire storyline.