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I’m not referring to M+S tires, I’m referring to All Weather tires that are rated as winter tires.

Yeh probably!

That are tested an approved by the federal regulators and industry standards body here. They have been tested and approved for use in severe snow conditions and insurance companies give you a winter tire discount.

That are tested an approved by the federal regulators and industry standards body here. They have been tested and approved for use in severe snow conditions and insurance companies give you a winter tire discount.

So many nice cars, some shitty ones too though. For me, if I had to pick one, it would be the Sierra Cosworth RS500

If you are referring to the Escort Cosworth it’s actually 4wd

It may be compound, it may be tread pattern, it may be a combination of both, it may be none of those I don’t know as I’m not a Tire Engineer. The All Weather tires I am referring to are classified as winter tires by regulatory, federal bodies and insurance companies. They are suitable for all year round use and

I don’t disagree with you. However, in a family SUV or similar they are perfectly good for summer driving. I had a few squeaky bum moments in my Santa Fe when I went into a corner too fast and the WGR3's let me know, in no uncertain terms, that they were not happy. But, I was going too fast for the chassis as well. I

Winter tires I believe, or snow chains. I seem to remember this being clarified after the two serious accidents in a row recently.

They are obviously a compromise but the federal regulators, rubber industry standards body and insurance companies ask classify them as winter tires as they have been tested and comply with Canadian standards for winter tires.

I meant new in North America, not outside off

They new outside of North America and seem to be almost non-existent in the US. I got my first set of Nokian’s 6-7 yrs ago. I live in Van and wish I had them still on my current car, only so that I can go up to Whistler if I need to. But as I’ve stopped skiing I have little reason to head there in winter now.

Macleod Trail, near the South Centre.

I’d say All Weather = top line hiking boots good enough for the majority of hikes unless you are going mountain climbing.

Have you used them for any length of time? I had them on a Ford Exploder & Hyundai Sante Fe while I lived in Alberta and not once did I feel that they provided less grip than a dedicated winter tire. They are rated and approved by the federal regulator as winter tires and insurance companies give you the winter tire

Of course, to think otherwise is retard.

Never said they were, they do a great job in call conditions though. 5 km/h difference in cornering speeds in summer and a bit less grip in winter. They will work better in spring, summer & fall than a dedicated winter tire will.

They have been tested and approved as winter tires in Canada. They are marked with the same identifier as winter tires. Much more than a marketing gimmick.

It obviously won’t handle as well on track with all weather tires but that’s because it as a compromise. For the vast majority of the population they are perfectly good for winter conditions. They are rated the same as winter tires having been tasted by regulatory bodies to ensure they meet the same standards.

Tranport Canada have tested and approved All Weather tires for use in severe snow conditions. Tires approved as winter tires must have the snowflake symbol on them.