We know that’s not the case - just that few people are cross-shopping a Wrangler and a Renegade.

You should request authorship on Oppositelock so you can share more about your Jimny when you get it. I’m sure I’m not the only person who’d like to see/hear more.

I would go one step further and argue that 95% of consumers who buy a SUVs with off-road capabilities (4runner, jeep, landcruiser, RR, etc.) are posers.

The Renegade is only related to the Wrangler because it’s made by Jeep and has similar styling. It’s a completely different car and the customer base is way closer to “Soccer Mom” than “Jeep Bro”.

Naiveté 

I did around 100 hours of research before choosing the 3vZFe comparing it to a Gen 4 or a 2GR, with turbocharging it in the future plan it was by far the best option. The 2GR is a great motor, but a turbo 3VZ will walk all over it for 2/3s the cost

Jeeps make great rock Crawlers. Toyota makes great overlanding vehicles. Great on him for preventing a massive brush fire and getting video. 

So, lets make the most commonly over torqued regular maintenance item into a potentially life threatening issue so we can save .05c on an aluminum casting?

Not the time or place for this.

Wow, good memory!

I agree with Kristen. This blog is right.

I generally avoid touching other people’s shit... More importantly, I really avoid touching other people’s shit when that shit is worth more than I can possibly pay for it...In my life time. It’s also called respect.

Disagree. She’s right. don’t touch.

I know an opinion can’t technically be wrong, but your opinion is wrong and you should feel bad.

If it’s not wet, a finger can scratch the surface of any vehicle. I don’t care how clean a car looks, if it’s outside, there’s crap on it. I’d rather not have people running their digits down the flanks of my sexy little SL.

Counter-counterpoint: touch the cars, but only with permission. Most people will probably be fine with it, but the last thing you want is to accidentally damage something.

Headline - “The coolest car...is this van”

Ladies and gentlemen I present to you...

No stick, no sale. I say, “Good Day Sir!”

A roadster without a manual option seems silly - the entire point of a roadster versus a GT is to have a better driving experience and that usually involves more engagement such as shifting on one’s own.