If that means we get Pence, it would likely be even worse.

I'm pretty sure it's going to be targeted to a new generation (i.e., not mine.) There probably won't be references to '70s laundry detergent commercials.

When this show started, I already disliked Barker from Truth or Consequences - I'm not sure why, he always seemed too smug or something - so I never warmed to him on this show either. It didn't bother me at all when he left.

"yearning for only the peaceful oblivion of death this yuletide"

Marcus Welby had high enough stakes. People thought they had terrible illnesses, and Welby just told them they should switch to decaf.

I was mostly kidding - I don't think too many people are worked up about The Weber Show, although the story of the network tinkering is probably interesting.

After it was canceled, I found myself wishing for a spinoff with Weber, Amanda Peet and Ed Asner about the workings of the network.

You mean you talked about all that stuff, but not The Weber Show?

Thirtysomething.

Plus, they could then have avoided having an advisory committee without Miss Patty.

I'm gay and have lived through it all. The gayest song ever is Sister Sledge's "We Are Family".

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Rory can do no wrong, which is a typical characteristic of a Mary Sue and typically the way a writer treats their surrogate character. Plus, Rory has a Korean-American best friend, just like ASP.

The show is about old money in the Northeast. Blame the world.

It's not the wookie. That was too many months earlier.

She's a Mary Sue, a surrogate for Amy Sherman-Palladino.

In what way has the show tried to make us believe she's broke? Aimless and failing, yes.

Rory and Lorelai have always been unlikable. You'll drive yourself crazy trying to like them. What you can like is the amazing dialogue and the fully-realized world Palladino creates. And there are plenty of other characters who are likable, or at least hilarious.

I got trough about the first 3 episodes on my first time watching it, and gave up because I couldn't figure out how to like or root for any of the characters.

You can watch it on broadcast TV if you get the LaffTV channel. I had never seen it and ran through the episodes once on that channel, and I have no need to watch them again. Enjoyable enough, but nothing to get me to rewatch it.