I think that's true for the DNC. For women, people of colour, and lgbtqa? It's time people stopped telling them to find middle ground with Trump supporters.

This is what I'm talking about. I'm not saying they're evil. I'm saying they don't get a pass.

Right? Are Wynne and Trudeau my first choice? Not by a longshot. But the opposition wanted to mail a million gov't workers faux pinkslips and spent years damaging our environment and scientific community, so.

I wish I could give this a hundred upvotes. No, people really don't have to give Trump and his supporters understanding and benefit of the doubt.

To me, it really is two separate issues. People keep talking about, oh, if only it had been Bernie, the DNC sucks, Hillary ran a bad campaign, etc. Some of those things are true, I think the DNC has needed to change the way they work for a long time. You don't have to get in the mud where your opponent likes to hang…

I think a lot of the line in his Doctor Who tribute: The triumph of intellect and romance, over brute force and cynicism.

I was chatting with a friend last night, we were both super nerdy girls growing up, about how deep down, we always kind of figured Star Trek would happen. As ridiculous as that is. That, growing into super nerdy women, volunteering, doing work to make a change, striving to be the change we wanted to see, we just took…

They voted for someone endorsed by the KKK. Hell, some of them are the KKK. They voted for someone who actively advocated deportation and violence on people based on their race and religion.

I remember reading The Handmaid's Tale when I was younger and thinking it was ridiculous because how could people ever let that happen.

Like, with robots?

In what sense is the USA of today more like Finland than the USA of 1966? I think it's easy to dismiss the care and health of your poorest citizens when you're comfortable, but that that is an incredibly shortsighted and detrimental point of view.

I don't agree there at all. I think it's ignoring some pretty giant issues to say the US is essentially the same as, say, Sweden, or even here in Canada. Your epic healthcare issue alone. Your lack of employee protections. You're one of the only western societies without parental leave!

Americans actually aren't tho? There are plenty of safer, cleaner, more liberal societies. Your gun violence is way higher than a lot of other nations, your environmental policies are about to walk off a cliff, you just got healthcare for 20m people that's about to be repealed, and your left party is centre-right.

As the world looks up, and sees that the bottom of the barrel is so far away, it's completely faded from view.

Thanks for the breakdown. This is going to be such a mess to untangle, even if it wasn't caused solely by racism, the racist aftermath is already apparent today.

That's what genuinely frightens me about this. All the truly awful, evil people that could never get elected now have a wide open path to power.

Admittedly an outsider here: But some of the states that turned red actually have had better economic growth than others. And your new healthcare initiative brought care to 20 million people who didn't have it before. The exit breakdowns I saw actually skewed fairly strongly that white men, and to a lesser extent…

How? I mean, what can they even put out there that's going to be that much worse or more outrageous than reality?

I think a large part of the problem is that Trump's campaign and win are basically indistinguishable from satire. This is some Handmaid's Tale shit going down in your nation.

Of being utterly terrible?