Yes I was wondering about that too. They just show glimpses of it, but from what I could see, there's an elephant and a glass bottle and a lot of big gears, right? It looked like a surreal piece, which even if it isn't "artsy" enough for you, is usually interesting visually enough that anyone with functioning…

I don't know anything about that case, but I just googled her and the images are really nice actually. I like them.

Yea I agree with all that. I think about this sometimes in regards to visual art, but also literature or music. I think musicians actually have the least cynical audience of the three as an average musician can go out and jam and spend a lot of their free time writing songs and practicing instruments and no one…

Oh good. This makes me feel better about how much I spent on my painting of dogs playing poker.

Yeah, I think you are in a very different demographic from my own. I live in a working class neighborhood so people need the second income though most can only afford children if someone stays home with them most of the time because childcare will otherwise eat up their entire check. So the stay-at-home parents…

Yes I see that totally. Many of my friends who did not plan to stay home for years ended up in that situation because they wanted to nurse exclusively which made it difficult for them to return to work. So they stayed home (mostly) for a year with the intention of going back after that or else both them and their…

Agree with that totally. But it's also his prerogative to say "nope, I don't want to wait" and leave. And (responding to the comments down below) just because old men with trophy wives do it doesn't mean it's how he wants to live his life. I think it is perfectly reasonable for a man to want to have kids before…

The ones who never worked again, I assume it was by choice? I mean, why in the world would they choose to never work again at all? I get that they'd likely not have the options of fulfilling employment that they'd have had if they hadn't stayed home, but surely they have choices beyond pyramid schemes. Or they…

Oh yes, for sure. I've just seen a few cases of the married folks with stay-at-home moms with fathers who hate their jobs. It's hard for everyone; the father can't quit and I understand he is stressed. But the woman is stressed too because raising kids is hard as hell. Then dad comes home and is pissed off that…

I think that depends on what sort of work she did before kids. Now, I'm not saying this is the case for everyone, but I know a helluva a lot of women who had really shaky careers in the first place. Mostly liberal arts majors and such who were never able to earn really decently. They were on a career trajectory in…

In my experience, this is usually the case for all stay at home parents except for in the very time-consuming really early years. Most stay-at-home moms and dads I know do SOMETHING outside of the home, be it working part time work with flexible schedules (I know a painter, a golf instructor, a massage therapist, a…

I feel this way too about the job I just quit. I don't think anyone is saying it is easy to be the breadwinner or the provider, especially if it means you are stuck in a job you can't stand. That's one of the main reasons I will not have kids. I want to keep my options open because there is nothing worse than being…

This sort of commonplace awfulness in married family life just makes my stomach have a sinking feeling and I start to think about kittens instead. Imagine being stuck in that- it's your life for years. Not bad enough to break apart a family and leave, but just a constant feeling of being perceived as worthless. …

Or at least to be able to return to a source of income. If you are going to give up your job and stay home, you need to make sure that you have money set aside that you can take if you need to cut out, and make sure that you can get on your own feet and support yourself without too much hassle as needed. But in…

Nah, that's fair. He has the right to look at his own life and decide he does not want to be an older father. He does not have the right to force that on someone else, but likewise his wife does not have the right to force him to wait. They probably shouldn't have gotten married before sorting this out. I really…

I agree with this, but so do women. Frankly, this is what everyone wants. The difference is that women are more likely to see what reality is like than men are. But look how many women are on here saying they'd only do it if the man stays home. Because they want the same thing as the man does.

Well, the expectation that the person who stays home also does the majority of the chores is fair, but I'd like to point out that staying at home with kids (when they are really little anyway) is exhausting and sometimes isolating. So the expectation that you come home to a spotless house and a hot homecooked dinner…

Yes exactly. All the stay-at-home dads in my friend circle are married to successful professional career women who make a lot of money and work long hours. When you are talking about more lower middle class and working class women, it's usually a stay-at-home mom because neither parent earns enough to make it worth…

1) I don't know how to answer that really. It changes with every encounter. I've never really thought about it in that detail. Usually... it's about charisma and movement I think. The way someone leans or makes eye contact or makes conversation or moves around. Voice, presence, self-composure. In a general sense…

I wonder if they can make something that can be charged regularly. You know, a chip with a tiny built in battery that you can charge or a tiny plug sticking out that can be hooked up to a battery a couple hours at night. See what I mean? Surely the tech exists for that? If your child ran off for more than a day,…