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A teacher having an affair with a teacher’s aid (who was in her 20s) would not be in jail. A doctor having sex with an assistant or nurse would not be in jail. Monica Lewinsky was young, sure, but fully an adult. It was totally skeevy for a man in his 40s to have an affair with a woman in her 20s who worked for him,

I think you’re right and in this situation we need to add the wrinkle that Broaderick claims that Hillary knew everything and intimidated her. Let’s assume that the Clinton’s aren’t utter monsters and that Broaderick misinterpreted her conversation with Hillary. How likely is Hillary to believe this story when it

Good to know. Thanks for the info. I still don’t feel differently about Monica, though. I mean, you say being 22 is not that different from 19, but I don’t believe that’s the kind of reasoning that we should be using. At some point, we need to stop moving the goal posts.

No. A teacher having sex with a minor is both morally reprehensible and illegal. A teacher having sex with a 19 yr old student is just morally reprehensible. And again, Monica was 22. I mean, the line is drawn somewhere. You can say it’s disgusting, but it’s not illegal.

Did YOU just graduate high school? Seriously, with your “I’m not your personal search engine” bit. Calm down.

That’s one thing that gives me pause. Between decades of Clinton-hating media and the VRWC and the freaking impeachment, why isn’t there more concrete evidence?

I’m sorry, but I think it’s ridiculous for the “right to be believed” to extend to the family of the accused. I do expect every unrelated party to take a victim’s story seriously, but it seems pretty unreasonable to fault a spouse/parent/child/sibling for believing in the accused’s innocence. I feel the same way about

“It’s puzzling how so many people here are trying to exculpate Hillary in this.”

Did you not read the article? She only brought up her alleged rape in 1999 while HRC was running for senate, two years after she was subpoenaed and either LIED UNDER OATH and said it didn’t happen, or in some sort of Hillary hating which hunt decided she wanted to misconstrue a handshake as being menacing. I believe

No one said we shouldn’t believe Broaddrick because Hillary loves Bill. The point being made is that it is understandable why Hillary would want to believe that her husband is not a rapist even whilst simultaneously holding the belief that women who claim to be raped should be believed, not that we should never

I’m always amazed at how this all becomes Hillary’s fault. So much for Jezebel passing the Betchdel test.

I don’t disagree- I think she should be taken seriously and shouldn’t be dismissed. She seems to be really suffering(although, again, that doesn’t necessarily make her story ‘correct’, it just means she should be listened to and treated with respect and compassion).

That seems to be a huge oversimplification. In general, yeah, sexual assault victims should be believed. But I don’t think it’s fair to expect Hillary to immediately turn on her husband because of an accusation that hasn’t been proven and has no really compelling evidence (which I know doesn’t mean she’s lying, and

This post deserves more stars.

The right to be believed doesn’t dictate personal behavior. It’s a standard for police investigation and public reporting - the idea that any alleged rape is likely true and should be investigated and the victim supported. It doesn’t mean that a woman must believe the word of a stranger over that of her husband and

I think the unwritten assumption there is “pending further investigation.” False accusations do definitely happen, although very, very rarely obviously, and if, after looking at the evidence, or lack thereof, it seems more probable that nothing happened, it’s not as if we should go on blindly believing the accuser

I’m a sexual assault survivor myself, and I know avoidance behaviors are definitely a thing there. But there was 20 years between her rape and the Lewinsky investigation, and then after declining to participate in that, she chose to go after Hillary, not Bill. That’s what strikes me as odd. I’m picturing my own rape,

She’s also angrier at Hillary than at the man she says raped her, so yeah, I don’t feel bad for finding her less than reliable.

Oh, I understand why she feels that way, just...something has activated my spidey sense that something isn’t right. Her Trump vote (hello? He has also been accused of rape!) and the cozying up to conservatives...idk. I don’t know if we will ever know for sure. It doesn’t change my vote for HRC either way.

This is my feeling exactly. Ok, Bill Clinton is a terrible person, but why is it necessary to blame his wife? I don’t see anyone raking Melania, or Marla or even Ivana, over the coals for any of the despicable things Trump’s done over the years.