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How do we know that this Sam fellow isn't looking at his team mates and fantasising about them at home? Gay men are shockingly promiscuous so it's reasonable to suppose some of his team mates feature in his masturbation sessions. I suspect that many of his teammates fear that he is sexually objectifying them and

What is this sexist bullshit? I never sexually assault nor degrade women and this comment clearly implies that since I have a penis, it's better for women to assume I could be a threat. How is this logic different than someone who crosses the street to avoid blacks? This website has such a deep-seated inclination

A gay man showering with a bunch of straight men is more similar to a straight man showering with women (Lennay) than an African American man showering with white men (your example), at least in my opinion. The first two deal with sexual orientation and gender, while the second one deals with race. It's at least

your point is essentially that the reason its not OK for straight men to shower with women is because they would be, "constantly sexually assaulting and degrading them." Otherwise, women shouldn't have a choice in the matter.

I think it's a fair parallel... And has nothing to do with fear of rape. NFL players are specimens of what the human form can achieve... You can't tell me that Sam can shower with a bunch of buff dudes without getting aroused at some point and THAT is what makes his teammates uncomfortable. Men are stimulated

You get the hell out of here with that. It's MY private parts and I get to decide who can see them. Gay men don't get to make that decision for me. Just because Tom Ley says they won't assault me.

I have gay friends and family members and they are awesome people. I don't think they try to fantasize about every dong

I was thinking the same thing as Lennay when reading this. OK so it's alright to segregate genders when showering because you hear a lot more instances of straight men assaulting women than gay men assaulting straight men. If there weren't cases of assault, would it be OK for men to shower in women's public showers

On the assumption that you are straight, are you comfortable with showering with a gay guy? A lot of NFL athletes are in really good shape and have ridiculously sculpted bodies. If showered with a bunch of members of the group of ppl that I was attracted to, I definitely would notice this. It would be hard not to.

I'm a Mizzou season ticket hold, an even bigger Rams fan, and wouldn't give a shit if Michael Sam and his boyfriend 69'd on live TV when he was drafted, but your outright dismissal of a pretty obvious point is a bit strange. Women aren't constantly sexually assaulting and degrading straight men, but do you really

Tom, am I to understand that men and women shower separately solely because men assault women? Certainly Lennay's logic is not water tight, but your response seems not to address his claim - that men and women shower separately because of a preference not to be seen naked by other people who find pleasure in the

So, if we lived in a world where sexual assault didn't take place, you think all men and women would be cool showering with members of the opposite sex? That's insane. Your outright dismissal of that point is crazy.

I don't know if you can just swat away his comment like that. It's a legitimate argument that should be discussed and maybe looked at as another opportunity to educate as the barriers gay men and lesbians face continue to be broken down. In fact, maybe a better way to combat the argument is to ask if a group of

So your contention is that gay men are incapable of assaulting anyone? Well that surely sounds like equality. It's never happened? Or just doesn't happen often enough to matter?

I seriously doubt that women would be cool with unisex showers the day sexual assault and gender-based degradation ceases. Nor should they necessarily be.

what a terrible response to a very well-reasoned critique of your argument

So you're saying that the issue with men showering with women is that men assault and degrade women? So as long as the man in question doesn't assault or degrade them then women probably won't have a problem with that?

Just as all gay men aren't "lustful cockmonsters", straight men don't turn into boob touching zombies when they see a woman. By definition, gay men are attracted to other men physically just as straight men are attracted to women physically. So by the logic presented in this article, men and women should be able to

Got it. So I'm a sexist just because I don't share your opinion?

I'm a woman, asshole. I believe that makes you the sexist for assuming that since I disagree with you, I must be a man.

see, this is what I'm talking about. Taking these things that aren't really a big deal and calling it sexism. Getting hung up on a simple manner of semantics such as using "girls" to collectively refer to a group of women, and you don't think you're being oversensitive? You honestly never used the term "girls' night