On a meta level, I think the joke is that Holt doesn't emote.

That joke has already worn a little thin for me. It was a really funny one off. Maybe if they didn't keep describing the joke and just let us laugh at a fact that there's a huge dude around who calls Terry names.

Boyle saves this show a lot for me when it's middling. Tinkerbell.

It's really confusing because it basically means flash, there's no reason people wouldn't just start calling him/it a flash…

I never warmed to the island flashbacks really, so I guess I'm just not a flashbacks fan, for this show. They mostly seem like a distraction from the A Plot.

Would've been fine with Laurel dying to motivate Sara (even more…)

I think this is the downside to superhero adaptations on TV, where most shows would build on what's working and cut off dead weight, superhero shows are sort of bound to some aspects of the material. They can expand and reinterpret - they made room for more Felicity Smoak, after all - but they also start out with a…

It's too late. If they were going to reimagine it, they should've done it from the get-go. I can't think what I would want her character to be that would keep her in the loop for Flash stories, but I do sort of agree with you.

"Can't wait to see what comes next!"

Yeah, whichever way they choose to handle it, it can work. And it doesn't feel like long ago a production like this would've gone running scared from a similar concept. I mean, they're calling Flash "The Blur" and having Cisco christen all of the superpowered characters they come across, but aside from that there…

Not to mention Guardians, what with Rocket. The tone of that movie is a closer to The Flash than Apes is too. Not that I expect a snarky Rocket-like Grodd or anything.

I feel like they've successfully taken a page out of the MCU playbook.

I want the Koba from Dawn of the Planet of the Apes in a gorilla's body.

GRODD

- What's with Roy's guyliner?
- I only just noticed Island-Ollie (who isn't on the island at the moment) is styled like Sawyer from Lost.
- "YOU'RE NOT A HUMAN BEING, MAN. YOU'RE JUST ANOTHER WEAPON IN HIS ARSENAL."

There was a man named Cumberbatch,
Who once left his door on the latch.
Screaming ladies came in,
Made a terrible din,
And now his left eye has a patch.

I don't understand how his Tom Hiddleston works. It's too subtle, but it works.

Maybe I need to read around, but I didn't get anything from it politically that isn't just inherent in Batman or most superheroes.

Are you guessing he's a Tory because of Michael Caine?

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