There were more accidents at a local redlight intersection with the cameras then before or after the cameras. The issue is people would see a yellow, speed up to get through it, see the cameras, slam on their brakes and get rear-ended. The city got rid of the 5 they had and accident rates dropped and traffic got a…

You are not saying it shouldn’t be fixed, you are just saying its on the owners to fix it. That is where all of your comments have lead thus far. Its also a lot larger than 800rpm. In most cases its about double that. If it was 5% I would agree you wouldn’t notice, but its actually a decent amount on a already…

It is noticeable enough to call for Toyota and Subaru to fix it. There is also the principal of it all, and the fanboys who say “just toss a grand and it and the issue goes away.”

EDIT that 20ftlb is 15%, its noticeable. It also spans about 1500RPM. 

I have driven one, it was noticeable. Then again I like cars that have a fast hitting but flat powerband so that dip was pretty much a non starter for me. 

Again you should not need to do that for the cost of this car. Your “fix is available” argument doesn’t really work because this is something Toyota/Subaru should be fixing.

And for those that don’t want to have to fix this issue, driving around high in the rev range isn’t a great solution either. 

You shouldn’t need to do that for the cost of this car.

Like drilled brakes it is there strictly to sell cars. It looks sporty so someone will want it. 

The issue is they did a lot of the development just to nix it anyways. That thing wasn’t just some cobbled together bullshit, it was pretty close to production ready if reports are right. 

Nissan is dead, its just a name like that singular Blockbuster. I honestly would be more OK with the company just fading from existance instead of what we have now with the corpse of Nissan past animated by puppeteer Ghosn.

No my response was perfect, it got you to look it up which segues into my next point. They are not failing like they used to, the issue is they are not working like they should. I understand how DCTs should work and it amazes me how bad they still are. The problem is not solved. 

So I talked to my friend who works at a dealership, its not the actual CVT failing like he implied, its the controllers going out which makes them start missing where they should be sitting at RPM wise or being very clunky when “shifting” from a stop. They are replacing them pretty frequently but its usually when the…

You completly glossed over the fact that these cars all made it past their warranty without needing to be repaired, and now are getting fixed for free despite being out of warranty.

Also I guess you have not bought a current gen Honda with the trash CVT. Those things are failing in one way or another at a much higher…

The issue isn’t fixed, so you are correct, ignore this guy. 

Sure it is, use google. The data is out there, super easy to find at that. Have fun because I don’t care to look it up for you.

Well go buy one of these Fords, a lot of them are out of warranty and are getting repaired anyways. I take it you like FCA, maybe Chevy?

They are not the only brand with this issue. Many of them have been dealing with this shit for decades. They just don't issue recalls.

You can say that about a lot of brands. Don't try to act like you can't, because you know it's true.

They are not solved. The issue is much less severe but it's still there.

The one I drove a few weeks ago had it in the center console where the normal lever is at. It's also a 17 so maybe the older interior didn't have it there.

Or just don’t create them. You can still do everything that leads to a kid, but actually creating one doesn’t need to happen. We have the technology to skip that part.