when you say GM 3.8, please don’t mean the buick 3.8, those are literally the worst sounding v6 on the planet. their newer and older 60* v6's sounded a million times better.

Problem is that you’re looking at Magnaflow, and they honestly don’t make a single catback that i’d ever consider buying ever again in my life. They really don’t have a “tone” it’s just straight thru perforated mufflers on everything that don’t do anything to create a unique exhaust note.

God I hate these cars so much. As in, I used to like these cars, but the over romanticizing of them has actually flipped it so I now hate these, and am absolutely sick of them. I no longer find them cool.

While I understand it’s a bigger car, but not majorly so (like the M3/M4) at that price point, wouldn’t a Cadillac ATS-V nearly be a better “go fast” purchase choice? In the market now for one, and I haven’t even seen a M2 in a lot so I’ve been looking at the M3/M4/ATS-V/C63, and for the money (with discounts on…

this (what you are stating) is exactly why I am desperately trying to sell my only one year old Mustang. I didn’t realize what the ownership crowd was like. I simply liked the look of the new car. Now I can’t get out of it fast enough.

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I truthfully found the Escort to be the better looking car during that era.

I just so BADLY wish they’d return to having a race car that was actually based off the real road car, even if they are adding a cage TO IT. This is why i loved watching the Australian Super Cars, Trans Am series and BTCC. Real cars converted to full-on race cars with actual stock pars existing all over.

Pretty much…

incorrect. you’re thinking of things like HID headlights which are purely optional. 10-12 all look the same externally.

False overhyped and gross.

i wouldn’t even pay 1/4 of the asking price for this. shoot even 1/8 the asking price is pushing it.

is Owen Wilson even voicing Lightning McQueen anymore?

wait what? My comment was that for 13k for a bel-air you get nothing more than a shell with missing everything. it was a point that it’s awesome that you can find the lesser popular - but just as beautiful alternative models in the lineup for a good price still.

and a more desireable 2-door hardtop bel-air is 13k with just a shell and little more.

they swap out the big Brembos for standard focus front brakes.

Leave the DC area. I am also from the DC area and I have a Ford Dealership a mile from my house in Sterling and they of course have a huge markup on theirs. I did a quick autotrader search and found one 140 something miles away in PA at MSRP. Went and drove it and bought it the next day at MSRP with no haggling.

only marginally more expensive to insure than our outgoing Focus ST. I was shocked.

“soften the suspension” is also really suggestive. the system is just a bi-model system. in normal, sport and drift the dampers are “soft” and only in track are they “stiff”

but believe me it’s more like “stiff” and “i broke my back”

sad part is that it’s a 3v 4.6 with a supercharger that makes less horsepower than a new Coyote.

I’ll be the first to say it, aurally, the coyote sounds worlds better.