The difficult part for me is when I'm told you have to watch a season that is bad to get to the good stuff.

Definitely not deserving of death. But he did send a known mobster after a judge to threaten her into giving him a favorable outcome in his tax case which is a pretty serious felony. At some point it makes sense for Lou to get the FBI involved because they are designed to deal with an organization like the Gerhardts.

His shanking was also well done and genuinely surprising. Surprised this was a mainstream blockbuster.

Not there yet, but there was a wonderfully romantic moment where the camera slowed down and Phoenix grabs Howard's hand just as one of the creatures is approaching, pulling her inside. Swoon.

Damn. I disliked the Babadook, but loved It Follows! I can say us horror fans tend to go overboard when we like a movie because being a horror fan means watching every new release that comes out. Believe me, 95% of them are beyond terrible!

Kind of Twighlight Zonish I know. It's the only scenario I can think of that would explain how a 19th century village is able to cut itself off from all outside contact. Monsters or not, some other travelers or pioneers would have come across them by now.

One thing I am confused about is whether or not this is supposed to be taking in some alternate reality or the real world. I am guessing this is taking place in some kind of apocalyptic future where the rest of earth is a wasteland.

I am finally catching up with "The Village." I know nothing about it, but the cast so far is fabulous.

So you liked it more than The Babadook?

I feel like there was a review of this show on here a month ago. It's just airing now?

Abe List is a 21st century Larry Flynt

"The Babadook manages to pull off a monster that is the manifestation of some clearly drawn psychological baggage, but it’s all handled deftly and without the oversimplified view of the human mind that afflicts so much other horror. "

Which I agreed to earlier when I said Beema was perhaps being "a little loose" with the language after saying I "think" I understood what Beema was trying to say. Glad we agree on all counts.

Maybe this will even bring things more into focus.

I think Beema was being a little loose with the language when using the word "subjective" whereas you are taking a literal, dictionary approach. Check out this blurb from Ebert's review of The Jerk. I believe it captures the spirit of Beema's point and will quite possibly not even offend you.

I think I know what they mean. Can we agree that certain things can vary widely across a range of subjectivity? Picture a scatterplot. People either seem to think The Babadook is the greatest horror movie since The Exorcist or a steaming pile of shit. Whereas I'd be willing to bet something like The Social Network the…

I don't think that's what Beema was saying either, that when we engage in other genres the subjective process goes out the window. I think Beema was saying those genres are special for their subjectiveness. It's just been my experience that when we discuss horror movies on this board the spectrum is all over the map.…

I see Beema's point. What scares us or makes us laugh is purely instinctual.

But what about something like Ghostbusters. Comedy-Horror or just Comedy?

(adds that to spreadsheet)