Jon has killed lots of people, but he's never murdered anyone.

The guy helped Cersei carry out an attack that indiscriminately killed hundreds, if not thousands, of innocents.

Green Trial sounds like everyone got high or something. How about Trial by Fire?

*IN THE NORTH. I've always wondered why Martin chose this particular wording.

Yep, me too. I got so excited when Nikki Bower mentioned me by my screen name one video…smh

I think that's conjecture… I mean technically the Knights of the Vale are at her service and command, not of Jon's, because Baelish offered them to her. So if she had been smart, she would have told him about the Knights while refusing to give up command.

Still not as visible.

Oh no, someone called me a sexist online! and she banned me! Better run to my safe space before it's too late!

:D Bless you and your unintentional hilarity.

I don't know, and army can't be maintained on fear of punishment alone. A good and loyal fighting man needs a reason to fight other than "if you don't we'll flay you."

I'm afraid the buzzwords, shaming tactics and mental gymnastics from your regressive discussion manual will not be enough to deal with someone like me Liebchen.

Says the strong independent woman who earlier claimed that "the first one to throw ad hominens loses." So by your own rules, you lose. I mean thanks for that, but you didn't have to make it so easy for me.

Bullshit. Both were idiots and both are under the same scrutiny, the difference is the show depicts Jon's actions as a passionate mistake while it makes no explanations of Sansa's behaviour and instead treats it like a heroic moment. I hope someone asks her why she didn't mention the Vale army in the next episode.

I seriously doubt archers would cut down their own men so willingly.

She could've still done that without withholding it from Jon. Ramsay was completely ignorant about the Vale army so they could've just stayed out of sight until the right moment instead of at the last minute.

She didn't tell him about the Knights of the Vale because she was afraid he might be provoked into lunacy? Not sure I understand that logic.

Withholding VITAL information regarding incoming reinforcements from a commander on the eve of battle is just as stupid as falling for Ramsay bait. Both Sansa and Jon acted idiotically and made choices that cost men their lives.

Men's suffering is boring but women's suffering is outrageous and unacceptable. K.

Yeah, Sansa could have told John to hold off until the Knights of the Vale arrive, and Jon could've kept a cool head, but no, they had to be stupid and got good men killed.

Would archers really follow orders to shoot at their fellow men? How could soldiers obey a leader that disposes of them like that?