I don’t think the hybrid V6 is a bad thing, unless they are going full M-B and trying to make their tiny 1.6L F1 engine useable on the streets.

F1 engines are usually effectively seized at normal ambient temperatures. You have to pump pre-warmed oil and coolant through them to even be able to start them. Doesn’t sound…

Yes, with water cooling, 4 cylinders, a stout bottom end, direct injection and a LOT of turbo boost.

Maybe we should see what a new M133 long block costs vs. this Harley 131...

There are water cooled, normally aspirated 2.0L engines that not that long ago didn’t make that much power in cars. I was just pointing out that…

That’s technically a 2.2L engine... bigger than many econoboxes.

131.3 CID = 2151.6 cc, which can be rounded to 2.2L.

Initially I was going to say “just shy of 2.2L” when I ran the calculation with 131 CID... but then I did the math with the bore and stroke and came up with 131.3 CID actual :P

For only 2 cylinders and…

I remember when the Lamborghini Diablo was new... and it got 7 MPG. heh

Kind of not what the car’s about. And, I’d be willing to bet that 27 MPG number on the highway is better than just about any of the rest of the super high performance cars in its class.

Yeah, it definitely was made down to a price point. Could even be optioned without a radio, starting price points in the mid teens in 2012-14.

Uhh, I wouldn’t call it a special order. It was their extra decontented car to sell cars for as cheap as possible, you could even get one without a radio.

I really don’t get the fascination with high revs for something that’s going to be street-driven anyway.

They might be overthinking this a little. 178 hp is plenty to get an average car up and going. How many cars do you encounter every day only using a fraction of their power available merging onto the highway? Almost all of them, including older cars with far less power.

I think they’re also missing the point that fuel…

I just remember a lot of technicians complaining about how difficult some aspects of working on the Quad 4 were, such as the thermostat.

yeah, that’s the deceptive thing with diesel. When you ring them out and use all the revs, they are slower.

There are a number of items that are standardized, but there still are a couple different outfits that make the tube frames last I heard. Some of the parts that bolt to the frame are standardized, such as the live rear axle, but there still are going to be small differences between the frame makers.

The stability control can be set to not be as aggressive, I dont think he ever fully disabled it. We had fun in an abandoned, snowy parking lot with it. He’s got the AWD LR model, the power is definitely rear biased. So semi-aggressive throttle applications absolutely make it go a little sideways. The stability…

Been salivating over these things for more than a decade. The whole dang Falcon line, really.

Read Kristin Lee’s review of it in the last week or so, or at least the part about fuel economy. I’d disregard the part about acceleration, because this will absolutely shove you down the road with greater ease than the standard 2.0 NA gas engine... but anyway.

Real world driving, she beat the EPA numbers, which isn’t…

I suspect user error is the cause of the unintended acceleration, yet again.

As someone who used to poke at NASCAR for being so far behind the times as a way of justifying my fandom of other motorsports, there’s a reason NASCAR had stubbornly clung to its old ways for so long... and honestly, it probably was right to do so.

How are Corporate Average Fuel Economy standards really, I mean REALLY, going to curb global warming?

Not an engineer, just a technician whose job it is to try and wrap my head around the whole body of work of engineering in order to attempt to accurately diagnose and repair vehicles.

Going to add to my previous reply that the base model engine for the CX-5 is a 2.0L normally aspirated gas engine that makes a couple horsepower less than the diesel (162, vs the diesel’s 168) and WAY less torque (155 ft lbs vs. 280 ft lbs).

I’m an early millenial (early enough to have some late Gen X traits and experiences) and I don’t understand some of the shitty music today.