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It's almost never productive to call someone crazy.

I'm not entirely sure whether or not you're referring to my post with that first sentence; so let me clarify that what I meant by "lower" was that, in the book, she at least has the ability to decide when she'll have sex with Drogo; but in the show, she doesn't even have that. I don't mean that being raped puts her in

It is pretty hard to buy without some reservations, yeah. I don't think it's much worse in that regard that the book version, which is the same but without the rape. I mean, falling in love with a man who's bought you, a vicious killer who rules over a whole tribe of rapists, doesn't make a lot of sense, whether or

Well, my personal opinion is that, by starting her in even a lower position in the show than she was at in the books, her rising-above seems that much more impressive. She takes control of her situation with Drogo, rather than being given control. That's my read on the change they made to Daenerys&Drogo. It had its

You're going to have to explain specifically how these scenes are "explicitly designed to be sexy," to the extent that we're all a bunch of morons for not reading them that way. Or, if you can't explain that, then maybe you can explain how a rape scene might be designed to NOT be sexy. Right now it sounds like you're

So, in the situation in which the show placed her, what should Daenerys have done?

Right now it doesn't feel like anything except fucking confusing. It's too early to make any further judgments without seeing the aftermath.

Yes, but only tentatively. Which means it is a rape in the book as well as the show, but just because they're both rapes doesn't change the fact that one is way worse than the other.

Time heals all wounds, especially with a TV show. Jaime throwing Bran out of a window was a worse crime, but it also had a more understandable motive. If he doesn't do something to keep Bran quiet, then eventually word gets back to Robert about the affair, and Robert kills Jaime, and probably does some pretty bad

Psst, it might have something to do with you reading it and commenting on it.

She clearly does not do "her best to resist" in the book. "'No,' she said weakly […] She pounded on his chest with feeble fists."

Maybe, but I'd say book-Cersei's protestations were more like apprehension than refusal. She clearly wasn't saying, "I don't want to have sex with you," so much as just expressing her fear of being caught in the act. I suppose proceeding despite that still qualifies as rape, or at least, "rapey;" but there's still

I think all these other replies you're getting are missing the point. The issue isn't with rape in itself, but with the character that's doing the raping and the character that's being raped. Jaime Lannister raped Cersei Lannister. It's not like it was just some Dothraki asshole or The Mountain raping some random

I had this thought, as well. I hope very much it this wasn't the intent.

Well I hope you're right that it was an error of editing or directing, in that they might be able to fix the scene in time for the blu-ray release. They edited out ol' George W's head on the season 1 discs after their release when the outrage about that came out of nowhere, so I hope they'd also be willing to change

I think I can understand the change they made to the Daenerys-Drogo relationship. It ultimately strengthens her arc just that much more by having her seize her agency from Drogo, as she does in the show, rather than having it given to her by him, as it is in the books. Yes, it makes it harder to buy her eventual love

Kids get real dramatic, man.

I agree about the last scene not really quite connecting with the rest of the episode on the thematic level that it aims for, but wow, that was some very impressive acting from the kid that plays Henry. These child actors these days!

So is Fox just airing two episodes of Kitchen Nightmares on Fridays now, or what? What instead of Enlisted?