They are a loud one, though, and I think that's why this kind of stuff is important. But yeah, it's hard to hold Fincher or Flynn too much at fault for that.

Mostly agree with you here, Nico. I hadn't read the book before seeing the movie. I enjoyed it overall, thought it was gorgeous and wonderfully performed, but at its heart is more tired "wow check out this crazy bitch" femme fatale bullshit.