They are just completely distinct issues. Gretchen Carlson being a soulless gopher is not relevant. You’re still not allowed to harass soulless gophers.

This is kind of why I hope I have sons. So I can raise them to be good, respectful, feminist men that will make the world a better place. There aren’t enough of those yet.

They also don't want to have to critique or stop their own behaviour or believe their actions could be bad.

We (men) don’t believe things are happening unless they are happening to us. Beyond that, we don’t want to do anything that indicts ourselves in any way, whether actively or by omission.

Men also don’t want to know that men they looked up to, gave them their big break, or socialized with are the same men who prey on women.

I don’t know how you got an “lol” tone from my post, I think it’s pretty clear I don’t find anything funny about this. Also, the division and cultural segregation you reference is either actively created and enforced by white men, or created by people who are not white men as a result of needing safe spaces to exist…

Honey, I’m so sorry. I look back at pictures and I was really beautiful though I never, ever felt that way. And mostly, all I got was shit for it. It breaks my heart. It sucks to be a woman and NOT be pretty. I know that so well. It was treated as a tragedy when I was growing up, a girl not being pleasing to look at.…

Absolutely and it applies to ALL violence against women: harassment, catcalling, rape, domestic violence—what’s the common factor? Disbelief of the victim (female) and solidarity for the criminal perpetrator. It continues a cycle of common violence/abuse and actually protects and coddles our abusers. And it is…

Thank you! Your comment is right on. I’m a 60 year old white woman who grew up during civil rights, the sexual revolution, modern feminism. I remember hearing “blacks are fine as long as they know their place”, then when I was 12 I remember “you can’t be as smart or athletic or funny as a man or you won’t get one”…

When I tell my stories, I’ve had men get near physical violence with me. They do not want to hear us. And they will blame US. We are the harridans, we are hysterical, we hate men. It’s neverending, honestly. I’d rather talk to a wall at this point. At least the wall won’t call me a bitter cunt.

They’ve got a stranglehold and it allows them to live in a fairy tale world, far away from the shit the rest of us face. Expect that grip to get tighter before it loosens. They don’t want to lose their 1st place position. Why would they? Their whole entire lives they’ve secretly thought about how shitty it would be to…

Exactly. It’s the Mad Men concept; with power comes the ability to claim “what you deserve.”

I sometimes think if men knew the actual truth, they’d die of shame from silencing women all these years. It’s why they fight us so hard when we do attempt to tell our stories: they do NOT want to know that this happened to women they cared about—their moms, grandmothers, great-grandmothers (god knows worse things…

It was fascinating to watch the Bill Cosby narrative shift seamlessly — and almost instantaneously — from “If he’s been doing this for so many years, there would be hundreds of victims, so he can’t possibly be guilty” to “All these accusers prove that women are just jumping on the bandwagon for a payday, so he can’t…

Thank you for saying that. I’ve been terribly disappointed to see so many “What did she expect?” and “LOL, karma!” comments about this case. Much more so on Gawker than here, but disappointing none the less. The way I see it is a victim is a victim, regardless of their worldview or occupation.

Judging from what I’ve seen on social media this weekend, I have very little faith they will see it. Or at least that enough white dudes will see it to make a difference. They’re getting angrier, more violent, etc. as they fear they’re losing power, even though it will be a while before they lose enough for the rest…

If they’re afraid to come forward, I can understand why. They’ve got careers to protect and there’s very little doubt that this isn’t going to a clean civil affair where everybody respects everyone else’s personal space. I see a lot of character assassination for anyone who comes forth. I may not like Carlson as a…

I’m completely disgusted by this, but unfortunately, not in the least bit surprised. This fucking week man. Seriously, what the fuck will it take to get white men to see anyone who’s not a white man as a fucking human being? What the fuck will it take to get them, and plenty of other ignorant assholes to believe…

If a guy calls a girl a slut guys have no problem believing him. But if 40 women accuse a guy of being a sexual predator people still don’t believe them.

I just don’t get how it’s possible.