Seems Legit.

She has 3 kids, carpools with other kids. Would like something truck based, 8 Passenger. Doesn't want a Flex. Has a 04 T+C.

Fair enough. Without me seeing what I thought I was talking about, I probably got a huge part wrong.

I really like it, until you look at the grille and headlights. Can we change that please?

I had a lady last week cross-shopping a Expedition against a Routan. Manager laughed at me, told me they couldn't give Routans away.

Front end fascia has similar elements (if you take the SX style fogs and combine it with the non-SX lower grille), but the Sorento is, in general, bigger. The roof line and the back end aren't similar at all.

Kia has plenty of moderately good looking, moderately sporty cars right now. Nothing I would call truly refined, but then again they never tried to be. They leave that to Hyundai to try.

Listen, I've sold both Ford/Lincoln and Kia/Hyundai. The body on this thing has more to do with a CX-5 than a Sportage.

I have a better idea. Lets get the 2013 MKZ to the showrooms, already! We're 2 months overdue for ours, and most of the inbound units are already sold. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised to have people backing out (after around 2 months, it happens on factory order vehicles).

I remember doing this in my dad's old 740iL, with about 4 dudes in the car with me, and a whole lot of weight being thrown around. BMW + Parking Lot = rite of passage.

Ford's already done the same, and many brands are moving a huge crossover into their line instead of a Minivan. That way, you don't get the people who have a bug up their butts about "driving a minivan because they'll look old" complaining, even though they are basically driving the same thing.

Yes.

Well, yeah. I never said you couldn't. I also make the money to afford a much more expensive car than my Forte, and I even have a good score. In fact, I want to trade my car in on an ST, and I can at any time (I sell cars, already worked the deal for myself, have it set aside in my desk for a rainy day). It just…

First thing I ever drove was construction equipment. Skid loader, excavator, front end loader, etc. The first thing I ever drove on a road was a 1999 Ford F-250 Super Duty, Crew Cab 4x4 with the Tow Pack. 6.5' bed, single rear, with the 7.3L Turbo Diesel. Huge truck, no doubt. My dad stopped on the way back from the…

I'd like to agree with you, but I just can't. If they were both the same price, who would realistically take the Toyobaru over a 2014 Corvette? There's a reason the cars are very differently priced.

You must have quite the income, to qualify for 3 car loans as a primary applicant. Most 50 year old buyers cannot do that, even. Not the norm.

And so we're clear, at a no money down, no trade scenario, a new $60,000 car is most defiantly a $1100-1200/month payment for even someone with great credit.

How about you just fix the visibility / interior issues of the Camaro. The Mustang is not nearly as bad in visibility. Haven't driven a Challenger, so I can't say for that one.

I'm in car sales, and some of this will be pretty obvious. I find, for younger folks, like myself, if it doesn't fit the budget, it doesn't fit the person. It's why I have a lot more 25 year olds interested in an ST right now than a Mustang GT, including myself. I don't know many 24 year old guys looking for a…

Because they generally don't post the dismemberment videos all over Youtube.