Using the numbers I pulled for the “base model” 2016 Camaro, the SS 454 LS6 Chevelle is indeed a little faster in a straight line only.

However, I was wrong, I forgot about the existence of the Turbo 4. So the numbers I had quoted for the V6 were in fact for the 4cyl.

So, correcting that error that I made by quoting…

Be that as it may, you’re still nit-picking the fact that the fastest, most powerful, most expensive 1970 Chevelle available, the truly Legendary SS 454 LS6 is AS FAST AS a V6 Camaro? That’s pathetic.

Heck, even the *manufacturer’s* stated 0-60 is still slower than the V6 Camaro.

And you’re using that pathetic fact to…

Actually, I admit I was wrong.

It looks like the performance numbers I pulled were for the 4cyl Camaro. I forgot about the existance of that, and forgot that the V6 was the mid-range one. I had researched performance figures for the base model Camaro, not the V6.

I was very very specific not to specify the V6 in that statement for that very reason.

I kept pulling the V6 as an example of performance becuase it’s pathetic that the 1970 Chevelle LS6 is closest in performance to the base model 2016 Camaro.

I was using this as an example of the fact that the 1970 Chevelle is such a…

That’s not what I asked you to do.

I didn’t say tell me one way that the 2016 Camaro *V6* is better than the 1970 Chevelle.

I said tell me one way that the 2016 Camaro *itself* is better than the 1970 Chevelle.

I was using the V6 as an example of performance because it’s a shining example of how much performance has…

Tell me in one objective, measurable, non-opinion way that a 1970 Chevelle is better than a 2016 Camaro.

And no, I don’t have a Camaro, I rather dislike them.

>Except no one pays $200k for a 2016 Camaro V6...
Price does not equal quality. In fact, when the product of inferior quality is of a significantly higher price than the product of superior quality, that’s a BAD thing. So yes, thank you for pointing out another mark AGAINST the 1970 Chevelle, the fact that it’s…

A 2016 Camaro V6 is just a hair slower than a 1970 Chevelle SS 454, with a 0-60 of 5.4 vs 5.3, and a 1/4 in 14.0 vs 13.6.

And that’s not to mention the SS, or even the ZL1, which completely shames the old big block.

And that’s also not mentioning reliability, economy, safety, comfort, quietness, cornering, braking,…

False.

A 59 Malibu “tank” vs a 2009 Malibu “crumple zones”

I’d much rather be in the modern car.

A proven and reliable motor that has been a tuner favorite for a decade or more != an experimental motor meant to push the limits of technology designed new for that car alone.

You don’t need a huge budget to build an engine that has a host of aftermarket parts and a level of proven reliability.

Um... Tell that to the Porsche 919, putting 500hp out of a 2.0L V4, that just won the 24 hours of LeMans

I’m pretty sure that’s a lambo, dude.

The cars won’t ever “shut off” due to an empty DEF tank. That’s a serious safety concern.

They’ll just “fail to start”.

You can drive as long as you want without DEF, so long as you had it when y ou started the car, you don’t shut the engine off after you run out.

Er. How did they “publicly reveal private information”?

The only person they revealed the private information to was the person who they had information on.

If speaking to friends and researching public sources to acquire private information was illegal, then Private Investigators would be out of a job.

If they did, in…

And if they did that, Lionhead would have had to deal with the hugely drawn out legal precedings, the bad press of “big company pressing charges on a kid” and top it all off, the kid would have a criminal record that would go with him for the rest of his life.

This way, they simply and quietly scared the kid…

So... The official Jalop Review of the Fiata says nothing about it’s balance and handling on the winding mountains roads of Vermont?

SHAME

“Driving it out in the country diminished it to any other unimpressionable small car.”

So you’re saying it’s no better at handling the fun back country roads than an Accent, Sentra or…

“SUPERCARS”

Absolutely, but you’d still only hire the moving company after the deal was signed. There’s now way you’ve been paying the movers to sit on their asses while you hope this deal goes through. So there is the delay as you wait for the moving company to hire and train the workers so that they can properly move your…

With your house analogy:

Three times prior, you already had the house nearly sold, but the buyer backed out at the closing table.

Are you going to trust that this buyer won’t do the same thing as well?

Can you fault them for not spending the money to establish an infrastructure for executing a settlement that hadn’t even been approved?

They’d had 3 separate settlements rejected earlier that year. There was absolutely a real chance that the judge would reject the settlement in October, and they’d be back to square…