Yeah it’s exactly what you said.

Considering they lost their class action lawsuit and considering you aren’t a credible source, we’ll talk once the actual news gets put out. If you’d like I have it on very good authority aliens are running the government. I know a guy who knows a guy....

You’re right. It might be a better argument if both of them were in the same league. I’m comparing apples to oranges right now. Should be interesting to see if Ford tries to enter it into a different race where the manufacturers can be properly benchmarked in the same class.

They can go upto 35's on stock 17's. Lots of space under the fender. But what you’re saying makes sense. It would need to have a lift to get 37's to fit without rubbing.

I’ve posted the list of components. The wheels are available. The tires have to be sourced and if you want bigger dampers that is available as well.

Poor argument considering Dana corp sold those frames to Toyota, got sued, lost and paid up. Dana corp also builds frames for the F150 currently and Raptor. Toyota also replaced all those frames under their warranty program irrespective of mileage and owner.

The TRD wheels come in sized from 16 to 18. All parts TRD sell. the 17 inch wheels are true bead lock wheels on top of that. TRD manufactures performance brake pads just like Brembo manufactures pads for any car running their brakes. Its less changed on paper. Do you have a pic of it’s bed? You’re also comparing a…

Those are the dampers that are allowed to be mounted to the roll cage as per the rules stated in the stock class. Shocks can be attached anywhere. The leaf springs are still mounted in the stock position. The front suspension is still allowed to be in the stock position. You do realize you’re comparing a truck running…

Leaf springs? Those are the dampers that are allowed to be mounted to the roll cage as per the rules stated in the stock class. Shocks can be attached anywhere. The leaf springs are still mounted in the stock position.

What do you think a bigger lift is if not modifying suspension geometry? For a race that they sponsor as well? I said the parts they use are unattainable. We’ll see if their supplier offers it for sale. Bilstein does for the Toyota.

The tires are non standard. We get that. The suspension allows for shock location to be changed. This is the Baja1000 not the BITD. Ironically enough Ford is an official sponsor for the BITD. Its no wonder they’re participating in it and have an award for a Ford specific class.

Do you even understand how classing a truck works? There isn’t a list of parts put up for the raptor genius. This article loosely covers what is modded. The entire list is much longer. When you change suspension geometry it is no longer STOCK. ANY decent racing organization knows that and doesn’t make the claim that a…

You realize that the TRD Pro is literally everything you can buy from the showroom floor right? Everything except for the cage, fuel, cell, navigation, seats and wheels are on the standard model. Without it being part of a showroom package it cannot be raced in the stock class.

Run against the Tundra in the Baja1000 in the stock class which is truly stock. Until they provide components that are the same as the showroom model it is a heavily modified truck. The Tundra still wins for durability.

They should’ve raced in the stock mini class. That’s a true test of reliability and build quality. They’ve won in that class before so it would’ve been great to see it done again.

EBR had issues with Harley because Harley didn’t see it as being profitable enough. A cutting edge superbike will never be as profitable as recycled engineering concepts. Erik isn’t a good business man but Harley’s behavior with Erik was a clear representation of how profit driven the firm is. They don’t give a crap…

Again considering how economies of scale apply to any production machine that has no differences in it’s build to models prior except for a few highlights, this is a fact. That’s how pricing works. Companies that develop motorcycles through years of testing, research and development price their bikes at this point.…

Negative. It’s the implementation of what the machine is. The tooling cost of producing those motors and frames are all done. This is a production line, not custom work. Custom bike, commands a price like this because of the work done by a single person to it.

Oh no doubt. Like I said perceived value does not equate to actual value. Which is why I commented on the lack of engineering prowess. As a rider and potential customer I’ve expressed my opinion and I just don’t see it. There are some bikes that can justify the value just because it works. The Fury, Vmax, and, VFR for…

When you’re being charged 17k for 1980's features you should care. It shouldn’t be anywhere as expensive as it is. If it were reliable at least I’d be impressed. Harleys have their own share of issues in that department.