That’s probably the biggest potential boon to the Model S bottom line. Porsche resets the high end (since Tesla kind of painted themselves in a corner by *only* being about 100k for a P100D).

The Model 3 definitely took some of the luster out of Model S and its top end sedan. Spec wise the Model S wasn’t much better…

Yeah, well I’m a Tesla stan and roll my eyes at half of Elon’s tweets. Teslas also aren’t appreciating assets, and all those dumb claims about self-driving.

But they just test drove a car with body changes and a new drivetrain. It may not be a facelift, but how much of a new car is a new car?

Although I like to think better, there definitely is a pent-up demand that Tesla was initially serving.

There’s going to have to be a coupletech jumps (price, charging network availability) before most of the idiot public goes from Toyota Camrys to an EV, but with all the majors pouring billions that will happen.

Prob…

I would agree if this wasn’t the vanguard design of the entire fundamental reengineering/restructuring VAG is undergoing to become an EV manufacturer.

Where you apply that 6 billion in engineering investment is mostly internal accounting and the usual voodoo corporate economics.

Of course I’m applying enough of that…

... like any model that is about to have a newly designed model replace it?

If you think Tesla has more economic resources than VAG, you are smoking crack.

If you think VAG doesn’t get a crapton of assistance from the German government that puts any “government subsidies” that Tesla was “gifted”, then you are also taking shrooms.

Haven’t you read the comments? Porsche fans really really really really care

As the Nurby expert says, Tesla isn’t even in the top 10 of Nurbsuburbyburb shenanigans. Which Porsche never does with their Porsche 911 GT2 RS Ultraturbo Weissach Package with OEM deletion of audio and communication system Motorsport bucket seat.

... have you seen Taycans anywhere?

They aren’t slated for release for 6-9 months. 

The Model S is legitimately long in the tooth compared the the Model 3: the motor tech, battery, and other stuff was all previous gen (but better than anyone else’s)

Plaid, being the Model 3 motors + redesigned battery + (hopefully) advanced battery chem/density should propel the Model S forward again.

Trickle down economics is bullshit.

Trickle down technology is definitely a thing though.

That is true, but at least Autopilot does ... sort of ... auto pilot the car.

There is absolutely no turbo on the Taycan Turbo that turbocharges anything with turbo technology. 

Tesla has to stay afloat making only EVs and razor thin margins. 

Porsche can loss-lead the Taycan on all of VAGs ICE sales.

Yah, referencing CoG I meant it may significantly change where the chassis flexes and the forces that produce torque on the body. Obviously torsion bars and rollcages are resisting forces during turns, and those forces are determined by the distribution of weight, and the effective moment of inertia.

The outer wheels…

As Hobbes said (and I think this is legit quote):

In the grand scope of college gifts, this is a pretty good one. Stands up pretty well to all the old grand white institutions grubbily holding onto their pedodollars.

Oh and that Sick Children With Sad Kittens Adoption Fund charity that’s part of the credit card console at the store? Yeah, that store takes a…

And then Michigan is PERILOUSLY close to being the University of Minnesota or Iowa or... oh hey, NEBRASKA, history or otherwise. They were barely relevant before Harbaugh came back.

Why would a recruit go there? Over any southern school, or Ohio State? The school is an actual academic institution, not like those…

What I’m REALLY interested in: are they using fundamentally better (but more expensive) battery charge density that enabled them to make a 100 KWH pack that is 40-50% smaller/lighter.

The Roadster 2.0's 620 mile range / 200kwh pack wasn’t arbitrary. I read a seemingly well-informed opinion based on a model 3 teardown…

You know there’s superchargers all over Europe?

I don’t know for sure, but the skateboard flat battery design should provide some serious lateral stiffness, it’s why their crash tests do so well.

Also talking out of my ass, the lower center of gravity from the skateboard battery may also make any rollcage-derived stiffness in the driver compartment less significant.