https://www.carscoops.com/2019/05/evs-now-expected-to-become-cheaper-than-ice-powered-cars-by-mid-2020s/

IMO If solid-state batteries become a reality, then a BEV car, which is fundamentally far simpler than an ICE drivetrain, will be cheaper than an ICE ever can be.

And ICE fanboys don’t want to think about the massive subsidies underlying gas prices in America, to say nothing of the 2-5$/gallon carbon taxation gas should be subject to.

PHEVs are probably a much better interim solution for the next decade. PHEVs should be a requirement, with base ICE penalized to make it 3-5k more expensive.

BEVs have been the primary driver of battery investment up to now, so they have served their purpose. Ongoing, powergrid storage might actually drive economies…

How many dogs did he microwave to do that?

Goddamn I can’t believe I never made this association.

Don’t bother, there are so many dipshit blind Musk haters on jalopnik, just because their entire self-constructed male identity is ensconced in the ICE engine and all the arf-arf talk about throaty vibrations, still axles, and driving horsepower.

Big picture? They don’t even think outside of their car interior.

Yeah, but buyers are surprisingly resistant to getting these cars due to range anxiety.

The jump in the last 10 years was basically incremental chemistry. I’m not a battery expert, but to get to the beat-ICE density/cost/size will probably require a fundamental chemistry (solid state, etc) change. Not that incrementals aren’t going to deliver more savings (Tesla is sitting on 30-50% increase in density…

Jumpstart was a poor term on my part. I think what I mean was to give a market advantage to your brand of EVs. Tesla definitely jumpstarted, now the charging network for non-Tesla is getting robust enough that supercharging is just a market differentiator.

So BMW just winging it is sort of a market capitulation as well.

6 is a good baseline for a “zippy” car.

7.3 (which is what I reacted to) is not.

IMO The basic cooper 2-do0r is a timeless design, on the level of the basic Porsche shape.

But I agree mostly, the countryman and other derivatives need to be ejected into the sun, their design is terrible and needs a fundamental rethink. Those just diluted and perverted the original design. 

Stupid. The budgets on these monstrosities is enormous, more than enough to integrate an effective hybrid powertrain that would REALLY produce a ton of low end torque.

But these are strictly profit printing exercises, bought by both conservative and Conservative (but not ecologically conservative) buyers.

PHEVs could…

More money for women. What is the problem here?

If the tournament revenues expand enough, FIFA can offer national bodies enough money to professionalize the national teams.

Well, if the money gets there.

Christ, another shitty 0-60. BEVs should be able to do under 5 with BEV tech from the 1990s.

The weight distribution/center of gravity will be crappier, a smaller battery will be all they can fit in, and they probably don’t get to optimize weight.

Approaches like this are banking on lithium metal/solid state to solve their problems. Usable batteries in 1/2 or 1/3 the package volume...

It’s a pure gamble, but Toyota is making the same one.

The power network is a jumpstart, and the opportunity to maximize charge times with controlled hardware.

But otherwise, every gas station will probably have an EV charge station or five in about 10 years. Once they realize it will triple/quadruple their convenience store revenues...

Dated? Because it doesn’t look like a lazy shitpile of polygons from vehicle designers that don’t know how to do bezier curves anymore?

44 kwh battery. Wait, NOT a PHEV?

A 100 mile range should be the minimum for a PHEV, not the near-max for a full EV.

It can work in London though.

They have to reset the credits, ideally time based with no volume caps and decreasing each year. 10k to start, -1k per year