You may have been talking about both, but Superbat (to whom I responded) was speaking specifically about Homeland jumping the shark.

The difference is a matter of who is going to speak out for Saul. O'Keefe has fifteen million viewers and is calling for civil war. The sad truth is that she's going to need more evidence than she already has to convict him in the court of public opinion—there's a reason why everything else is being done privately. I…

Tsunami, no disagreement, but I thought SuperBat and Derek were talking about HOMELAND jumping the shark, not TWD, which hasn't jumped the shark so much as lazily contented itself with showing the worst of times. (I'd recommend "Last Man on Earth" over TWD a million times over.)

But if you haven't watched the show since Season 3, then how do you know that the show is bad? If you look on Rotten Tomatoes, the critical consensus is massively positive—Joshua's been the outlier from the beginning. That doesn't mean he's wrong and everyone's right, but it's odd that both you and Derek leap to the…

Dirt, I've seen your arguments elsewhere, but I disagree with them. We could've also explained why the President couldn't just declare war on a random Middle Eastern nation, or how torture and surveillance are illegal, and yet we're doing all of those things. Trump's Muslim ban was patently against the law, and yet…

I don't think that Carrie was supposed to know what they did to Saul; if not for the FaceTime conversation, Keane's administration could've spun that arrest. (That's what the chief of staff tried to do.) So again, I do think that the job offer potentially placates or confuses Carrie in any other situation. I also…

(1) O'Keefe may have created a conspiracy website for Quinn, but he never posted it. No crime.

I think we're getting tangled up on the semantics of what constitutes a "fake" protest. There are people in that crowd outside Keane's hotel that are there of their own volition, who genuinely hate her. Whether they were brought there by people who sincerely and independently came to the same conclusion, or if they…

(Multiple pictures of Carrie; there's one of her in one of those terrible wigs from Berlin underneath the one she stops on.)

I remember Saul making that point, and this may just be poor scholarship on my part in not remembering all the propaganda wars we've had, dating back (full circle) to Iran in the '50s. However, I took his observation to mean that he recognized the tactics that had been used to generate civil unrest, protests, riots,…

The show doesn't suggest that the protests against Keane are fake, only that they've been enabled—perhaps financially, or merely fueled by rage-creating propaganda—by falsehoods. This is modern politics; no matter who wins the election, at least 30% of the country is going going to be outraged.

@adamdomo:disqus: Name the details that you feel went unexplained, and I'll do my best to address them. Let's deal in specifics rather than generalities, especially since the show's supposed failure to do so is what you're complaining about.

Perhaps "monster" was too strong a word (I elaborated in response to mattias below), but I have to agree with Dar here. There's something not right about her in these post-inauguration scenes.

I don't see how you can make the argument that O'Keefe's bunker is irrelevant, the stuff of filler. It was a vital part of the conspiracy, and without it, Keane never confronts O'Keefe, Dar never learns that his off-limits love (Quinn) is being set-up, and the other cabal members never decide to go forward with Plan C…

I can explain that in one of two ways:

@mattias:disqus - I think he's talking about the person who will be the villain *in* the next two seasons (Season 7 and 8), which are most likely going to be the *last* two seasons, unless Homeland picks up some new viewers and finds a way to reinvent itself after whatever sort of endgame they're building toward.

What of them? O'Keefe's operation keeps on trucking along, no? I think sock-puppeting is a prosecutable offense only when it comes to manipulating the stock market; look at all the fake news sites in this country for proof of that.

Elizabeth Marvel has wonderful facial expressions and body language; her sparring sessions with F. Murray Abraham were the highlight of the season. Watch the practically psychopathic dispassion with which she sips her water as Carrie begs her to listen to her and tell me that her reaction is normal. She's gone beyond…

By the way, I would like to pause to appreciate one thing that Carrie did in this episode, which was to listen to Dar—a mortal enemy of hers at that point. All too often, we dismiss everything that our rivals have to say; if it was on FOX, for instance, it couldn't possibly be true. Carrie, like her mentor Saul, is…

The only thing I can think of is that these convoy cars are built to take damage. it's possible that people were able to get out of the vehicles before being burned alive; the snipers were only trying to kill Keane. (It's unclear, for example, if Rob Emmons died or not.)