You said it ties to her to the murder scene. It does not. It ties her to Conlin. As I said, there are so many other things that already do that. She's been seen at his office, meeting him after Sekou's indictment, once again earlier that day while at Sekou's house, etc.

More concretely than her fingerprints and the GPS on her phone (which got the call/text from Conlin)? There are any number of ways she might have obtained Conlin's weapon without ever going to his home. The pistol (literally) isn't the smoking gun you're looking for.

Yeah, I wasn't really sure why the guy even tried to kill her. I thought setting up Carrie would have been the much more logical move, especially since they'd already tied her to Sekou. That said, taking Conlin's gun shouldn't be any more incriminating; it wasn't the murder weapon, and it's a odd thing to remove from…

Do you really want to watch a show in which you know the most interesting characters will never be killed, at least not until the season finale? If so, might I suggest any one of a dozen interchangeable network procedurals?

Quinn was deep undercover in the Friend Zone, and now he can't find his way out.

I wonder if Viktor's anecdote about the circus squirrel running in the wheel might apply here; we're all running around so quickly trying to comment on the show that we assume we're the ones actually moving the plot, that we're shaping it into the thing we want it to be. The second we stop, though, and we share our…

You don't shit where you live. ;)

If you're quoting Saad, I thought that was actually rather interesting. The whole "He looks like you" line sort of echoes the season's narrative: we are our own worst enemy. (Alternatively, "If the devil did not exist, we would have to invent him.")

Quinn is meant to evoke the unstable Carrie of Season 1, but I agree that the show is failing to do much with that parallel. I mean, we could talk, too, about how him no longer being a part of the CIA has literally and figuratively stripped him of his agency, but Joshua is dead on when he talks about how the original…

If you Google my name + recap + Homeland, you'll find it. Can also find me through Rotten Tomatoes. (Trying not to shamelessly plug, but since you asked….)

I know that you're not buying it. I know that you don't agree. I know that you heard BS. I'm not sure why you keep repeating that. We're not disagreeing about that.

And yet his accent was still more consistent and believable than, say, InfoWars.

Your point in this thread was that "the entire tension of the scene is built on the foundation of Carrie being out of touch with Quinn," and that's what I disagreed with you about. But you backed up that faulty argument not by talking about how it was contrived, but by condescendingly talking about those of us who…

I'm not disagreeing that there are people who are having problems with some of the show's logic. I am making the case that in this particular season, and this episode in particular, those "problems" are intentional, and rather than deal with my actual refutations or explanations of certain things (like Carrie "not…

Trump has nothing to do with serious criticism—that's why it's an analogy. It's the way he presents opinion as fact, citing statistics that he may have read or heard about somewhere, that I'm talking about.

Dude, this is you putting your own opinions (none of which are factually sourced) on a larger group of people than yourself. I've given plenty of reasons to justify what Homeland is doing, and you're more than entitled to disagree. But when you start lumping in "serious television critics" to prove your point (when on…

I think you mean 50% *less* torture.

There's another way to think about that. Maybe he boinked the "gorgeous Mossad fake-prostitute" at some point in the past, and that's how he was recruited into working for Mossad in the first place, enabling them to plant a false-flag. They then replayed a similar scenario as to the one in which entrapped him in the…

Working theory is that Dar is either the one *responsible* for pushing Quinn to this or that whoever it is that could so manipulate Carrie (and attempt to sway Saul) would have kept Dar from knowing about this—largely because of how busy he would have been dealing with Keane and pursuing other information about Iran…

To me, it comes down to context. Think about how quickly things escalated: a bomb explodes in Manhattan, press show up to question one of the people who represented the (alleged bomber), one of them is thrown down the stairs, a protester is shot, the police show up. I'm not sure what their state of mind is at that…