I’ve argued with these types before, and it’s amazing how they’ll painstakingly root out the most obscure study suggesting that female-on-male domestic violence is more common, while totally discounting the way more expansive body of evidence suggesting the reverse and also the universally agreed-upon truth that…

My post didn’t refer to rape at all, nor did the post you originally replied to. I’m at work and don’t want to get swept up into a long-winded debate, so someone else can reply to you about the rape aspect.

How many times do single shooting incidents that end up in the deaths happen in Australia? In England? You don’t think extremely lax gun laws lead to much easier access for people like this guy?

The kind of law that makes people register all their guns in a government database. The kind of law that holds you accountable if the gun you bought ends up on the black market without a police report saying its stolen. Treat guns like cars. You buy one you register it under your name. If its used in a crime its on…

You are giving nothing BUT opinion. If you’re going to posit yourself as an expert, then prove it. Offer some actual, useful, and, most importantly, specific information if one is neither supposed to ignore violence between people nor call the police. Thrill me with your acumen.

your claim makes no sense here. who are these ‘some people’ you’re saying need to ‘back off’? they don’t exist. no one tried to be a hero. a deputy tried to do his job after a neighbour did the right thing and, instead of escalating anything, called for help. everyone did what they were supposed to here, no one came…

No, I’m seeing what you wrote. Again, you quoted a story about someone calling the police and said, “THIS is why you really shouldn’t stick your nose into other people’s business.” You don’t have to take my word for it. You can just scroll up.

Your original comment quoted the suspect saying that someone called the police and then said that this proves no one should no one should “stick [their] nose into other people’s business.” You started this thread by saying the fact that 8 people were murdered proves that calling the police when you see or hear a…

who is this ‘someone’ you theorize existing here, exactly?
one of the family members? it’s still godbolt’s fault. nobody in this situation is to blame but the person who did the shooting — certainly not the person who called the police, which is literally what godbolt is claiming in that quote.

are you misunderstanding what happened here? the ‘intervention’ wasn’t a neighbour coming in with a gun. the ‘intervention’ was a neighbour calling the police, which is a good thing to do in a dispute that is threatening to turn violent. the police came, the deputy began trying to de-escalate the situation, and was…

What is your point?

I honestly don’t understand your point. What would be the alternative to either 1.) ignoring what’s happening or 2.) calling law enforcement?

One thing is having suicidal thoughts and another thing is having a killing frenzy and then hope being killed because you do not want take responsibility of what you did.

Um....someone clearly NEEDED to intervene in this situation. The cops were probably called because the dude was THREATENING his ex-wife and kids. (“Having a conversation” is the killer’s way of describing it, but said conversation probably involved yelling and waving a gun around and demanding his kids come with him).…

That’s where people miss the mark IMO. I do not have a mental illness, but I still think it’s really distasteful and denigrating of those that do to assume that every mass murderer was tragically flawed and needed help. Did this guy need help? Probably. But most mentally ill people don’t go on a shooting spree; only…

whoever made that call was, presumably, trying to save the lives of the people godbolt was threatening. this is exactly the sort of domestic violence situation where others SHOULD intervene. it’s the job of the police to intervene when a person’s trying to kill other people. nobody stuck their nose into anything,…

Nah, I don’t think you’re being insensitive. Most people with suicidal thoughts only intend to harm themselves, and they need help and compassion and understanding. I’ve been there.

As long as America ignores Domestic and Intimate Partner violence we will continue to have mass-shootings by abusers or products of violent households.

“My intentions was to have God kill me. I ran out of bullets,” he said. “Suicide by cop was my intention.”

A sheriff’s deputy would be a good guy with a gun, right?