I can go with that!

That's all very interesting, ty.

Genuine PJ nostalgia is going to hit like a train in about 10 years. Seems like a strange thing to say about a band as successful as they've been but they're extremely underrated.

Vs is better than 10; it's the OK Computer to their Bends. And No Code is their Kid A. And Temple Of The Dog is their Pablo Honey. And I have no idea why I'm persisting with this avenue of comparison.

Yeah PJ20 was what I was mainly thinking of (which is an awesome doc, by the way!) They were local scene guys who'd flirted with success and wanted to hit big time. No harm in that. Like you say, the right influences crept in and then they found Eddie (who's like the sincerest and most genuine dude in rock, IMO.)

Nah, Live were the grunge Meat Loaf, and not in a good way.

Yeah it's not quite the right term, is it? I guess this…

K. Who's exciting, just out of curiosity?

Yeah, when you watch early footage, the rest of them do come off a bit like dudebros who narrowly missed being straight-up hair metallers. I think Kurt was taking pains to separate himself from PJ as much as anything, given that the media was lumping them in as one thing. He does come off as kind of snobby douche…

I wouldn't say PJ were pretenders (god knows the era spawned enough of those.) Say what you like about Eddie, I genuinely believe he believes every word he sings. I'd argue that Vedder and Cobain were as legit as each other but that maybe Cobain's influences were more legit than Vedder's (with Kurt coming from the…

OK, yes that one's OK. And I forgot about Cruel To Be Kind as well.

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This. That post falls squarely into "you're not wrong, you're just an asshole" territory. I even understand the anger but that's so not the way to wade into a topic as emotive as this.

There's a "shake before opening" joke in here somewhere.

Royston Langdon being married to Liv Tyler - during the peak Liv Tyler years - is a major source of unresolvable jealousy for me. I can accept that he's good looking (in a Steven Tyler kind of way) but he's only got one good song and he's from fucking Leeds. Makes Hendricks/Arend look completely reasonable.

Vermicious Knid? What kind of rubbish is that?

I did this and now I'm upside down and everyone's looking at me.

'Ave a banana!

Interested to see, out of Snoop Dogg and Ricky Gervais, which one will be the first person ever to wear out a lifetime pass?

But Ledger has scenes with Two Face…?