God I hope I never become the kind of person who sits there seething at resentment that a child is getting something nice

Fellow pass traveler here.

You need to get TSA-Pre, it’s only $80 once every five years. Plus for an extra $20, you can get Global Entry added on, which means you skip the line when going through customs when flying internationally. With pre-check, you don’t have to take off your shoes, remove your jacket or take your phone/laptop/tablet out of…

The dad really is the one who should be getting shit on. United employee, come get your man. He’s flying in shorts and letting the kids suffer embarrassment for something he damn well knew about. (Still don’t understand why his outfit was fine but the kids needed to change.)

Me, too. When I’m flying on my own dime, I’ve got no problem schlubbing it up in yoga pants. But United is pretty clear about the no-sweats, no lycra leggings, no track pants dress code for pass travelers.

Lemme guess. You’re not from California.

We’re all gross, and we’re all in this together!

I find this hilarious because, as someone who has done a fair amount of first class travel, it’s not like the folks at the front of the plane are attired in smoking jackets, afternoon dresses and grandmother’s pearls. I’ve probably got on jeans, a comfy sweater and slip-on shoes just like the plebs back in row P.

this. I had a partner for a while with 2 retired United parents - they got several ‘pass flights’ a year as part of their retirement package. The steerage thing is bang on, the example I was given was that a stand-by dog would go before me-the-pass-person, and every time I was lectured up, down and sideways by both…

I really don’t see anything wrong with this policy.

Exactly! Unless they have to wear big stickers that announce their flying status, who the F would even know? If United is that worried about being criticized, maybe they should focus on more important things - like their accommodations and the professionalism/behavior of their identifiable staff.

On the other hand, what exactly would have happened if they let the girl’s fly?

What I don’t get, though, is how anyone was to know they’re “representing the airline”? I wouldn’t think twice about a family in jeans or leggings even in first class. I don’t know how anyone would assume they’re airline employees.

What are “normal” pants for child though? I’d assume casual pants are normal for kids, and things like khakis or dress pants being more formal. I’m also curious about what age this starts at? Like do 5-year-olds have to wear business casual wear too?

And then walk through the area where a thousand other barefoot people just walked, through the scanner?

I’ve been a pass traveler, too, but I’ve seen this policy enacted in wildly different ways from site to site (and from agent to agent). If you’re going to have a policy, it shouldn’t be selectively applied, and a company should always be very careful not to criticize the apparel of younger children.

I think McCain is an excellent illustration of how positive character traits are not necessarily transitive from one context to another. Just because he was brave in one circumstance hasn’t precluded his being a coward others.

When someone single relates a shitty man story and the partnered up people say something like, “there’s hope for you!” it’s like a verbal pat on the head. It reads to me like, “buck up, you poor dear, your prince will come!” And it makes me be all “I AM THE QUEEN AND I DONT NEED YOUR DATING PITY YOU SHACKED UP…

K, not really giving you a pep talk but whatever.

Indiana already passed a law like that, it was supposed to start this month but was blocked by the courts.