Shhh, child. She *made* millennial culture to a very great extent - whatever you think you can claim, she probably did it first. She's never played by the same rules as everyone else, and that includes coming up with her own definition of mid-fifties life. Be happy she exists rather than resenting her for - what?…

Good for her.

"You can watch the full speech here."

I'm sorry, but aren't comments like that the whole point of Fashion Police? They sit there and make rude comments about peoples' appearance. Is there some sort of imaginary line that didn't exist until now?

Oh, yes. Thank you for reminding us that women's value and relevance in society naturally decreases with age, and we should stop paying attention to them as soon as their beauty fades.

I'd really love to see Jezebel and its commenters jettison the ageism along with body shaming. This attitude toward Madonna that she is old, dried up, worthless can't really be separated from sexism either. Criticize her actions, fine, but don't attack her for her age and changing face and body.

Much like you're taking shots at the grown woman's body. Do you not see the hypocrisy here? (Not defending Giuliana, but, seriously?)

Because Joan's comment would have been 3 times as offensive and she wouldn't have apologized.

Yeah, I have something of a problem with her speech. But I have a LOT of a problem with the way people are simultaneously lauding her for it like it was the feminist equivalent of the moon landing and slamming anyone who took issue with it by way of a lot of snide "I guess you can't be a feminist unless you're always…

She also created red carpet culture as we know it, which is a huge deal. It used to be so formal and boring. She brought in humor. "Who are you wearing?" She was the very first person to ask that question on a red carpet, and she made fashion take the spotlight as well. Sometimes it's the only fun part of the show,…

And yet you know when Roman Polanski, Woody Allen, and Bill Cosby die, those fuckers will not only be included in the In Memoriam segment but will have goddamn laser shows accompanied by the Mormon Tabernacle Choir...

I'm thinking of Inarritu's perfectly phrased but completely rehearsed down to the last pause speeches. He was faultless in his insincerity about it being "all about artists" and there being no competition.

I mean, that's fair to hold off on snark if you so choose. But we should definitely talk about the fact that intersectionality is often glossed over. In addition to the fact that often intersectionality often goes one way and often in a sense of, PoC women fighting for all women, but not all women fighting for PoC…

I think she does know that and misspoke. I think we're reading WAY too much into her comment and making it out that she's saying "well, every other minority group and poor people have THEIR rights, what about the white womenz???"

[don't kill me for taking this out of the greys]

"It's OK everyone - she's talking about equal wages, who cares that it's condescending and marginalizing, it's all for the greater good. Everything is not about race!" - all the enraged White Feminists when Clover posted about this.

I'm not even shocked. Joan worked her ASS off and never got the respect she deserved. She freaking MADE the red carpet into what it is now ("who are you wearing!") and she STILL couldn't get her picture run through a cheap photoshop filter by an intern and thrown into the line up.

I must point out what Arquette said in the press conference after the show, something about how women need gay people and people of color "that we've all fought for to fight for us now."

I knew she could sing, but when I realized she was totally hitting ALL of the Julie Andrews notes, my jaw dropped.